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Post by Fuzznuts on Jun 16, 2006 8:55:10 GMT -5
*waiting patiently for Sonic Youth review*
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Post by skvorisdeadsorta on Jun 16, 2006 15:10:06 GMT -5
Both are dead movements better left to the history books. I'm looking forward, like trying to not be classified for someone's preconceived ideals.
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Post by pauledwardwagemann on Jun 16, 2006 17:39:55 GMT -5
Another advantage of going indie is that the band can do a 'one-off' deal instead of beign enslaved by long term deal. DIY is often based arund verbal agreements and trust rahter than lwyers and contracts. This allowed small indie labels to create a nurturing environment for bands. Geoff Travis, founder of Rough Trade, said , "It creates the psychological conditions for musicians to do their best work if they are in control but have a partner who is not weak, who can help them."
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Post by pauledwardwagemann on Jun 28, 2006 16:50:55 GMT -5
Another advantage of going indie is that the band can do a 'one-off' deal instead of beign enslaved by long term deal. DIY is often based arund verbal agreements and trust rahter than lwyers and contracts. This allowed small indie labels to create a nurturing environment for bands. Geoff Travis, founder of Rough Trade, said , "It creates the psychological conditions for musicians to do their best work if they are in control but have a partner who is not weak, who can help them." Here's another quote by Travis "It doesnt matter how much 'creative control' a band is given. You'e still endentured. Long-term contracts will put a band in debt from recording and tourign costs. Then you have toproduce when you're not ready. You have to write songs when you hae nothing to say." |
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Post by skvorisdeadsorta on Jun 29, 2006 14:41:32 GMT -5
Indies are guilty of this as well and the other thing is that there are a ton of unscrupulous bands out there that will shake hands and say that they will release said record on said label. Then when courted by a major, the band fully knowing that there is no signed contract, will totally screw that guy and go over to a major. The Major labels also have no qualms hiring very aggressive lawyers to get what they want as well, fully knowing that indie labels can't handle that kind of heat.
The other thing is that Sub Pop is a great example of an "indie" label that has about 38 percent major label money tied up in it with Distribution and a slew of other things. Indie labels will also sign what sells to get a Return On Investment much like majors will. The only reason, ONLY reason that Wolf Eyes is on Sub Pop is that noise is big right now and they know that those guys will sell quite a bit of records, enough to where it will be advantageous to have them on the roster. When it's no longer advantageous, Wolf Eyes is going to get dropped like a bucket of rotten vegetables. I've witnessed it first hand, it's happened to friends, it's also happened where the major labels treated a band better than the indies.
Again, major labels have health care insurance and other amenities that independant labels most of the time can not compete with. I think Fat Wreck Chords and Dichord are the only two labels that offer health insurance to bands that sign with them. That's a big deal. Indie cred only goes so far. Landlords don't like getting paid in reputations and after a while, your romantic partner is going to get sick of picking up the tab and therapy bills as well.
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