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Post by Galactus on Sept 1, 2004 13:54:18 GMT -5
"I don't know where they come from but they sure do come...I think they're coming for me" Ladies and Gentelman ...are you ready to rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrruuuuuuummmmmmmmmbbble! Please welcome Battlein' George Bush!
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Post by Galactus on Sept 1, 2004 13:59:24 GMT -5
"Tonight my fellow Americans, we're going to pitch a wang dang doodle... and in closing I'd like to say that America is a long, hard race car and we're going to put it in the smooth, clean garage of of justice"
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Post by pissin2 on Sept 1, 2004 14:03:20 GMT -5
America is a long, hard race car and we're going to put it in the smooth, clean garage of of justice"
haha. that sounded slightly homosexual.
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Post by chrisfan on Sept 1, 2004 14:04:35 GMT -5
So now we finally know why it is that George W Bush has been doing everything he can to destroy the environment. It's obviously been a big scheme between him and his brother to destroy the Democrat voting areas of Florida. Two major storms come through now, the latest projected to hit ... West Palm Beach. Coincedence? I think not ... especially when you consider that the Republican heavy panhandle has been almost completely spared this hurricane season. Obviously, George and Jeb have been conspiring to screw up the environment in order to remove chosen voters from Florida for their own political gain. ;D
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Post by strat-0 on Sept 1, 2004 15:36:20 GMT -5
Is is that strange to think that a campaign would get an ASCAP license, given the amount of music they play during the course of a capaign? Or that the venues they go to would be / could be the license holder? I THINK that I remember that being the reason that My City Was Gone is still Rush Limbaugh's theme music. Just because an artist isn't happy about music being used doesn't sound to me like a reason to assume that it's not being used legally. I've often wondered about the story of My City Was Gone - I heard she didn't like it being used, but I don't think she has a choice. My songs are registered with BMI. ASCAP is a little too pricey for me.
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Post by Thorngrub on Sept 1, 2004 15:38:32 GMT -5
America is a long, hard race car and we're going to put it in the smooth, clean garage of of justice" haha. that sounded slightly homosexual. Well, it looks as if Pissin's secret is out. You can come out of the closet now. I don't know about the rest of you . . . but the "long, hard race car" getting parked in the "smooth, clean garage" . . . definitely conjured images of good ol' fashioned, er . . . boy & girl sex. What do you have to say for yourself, Mr. Pissin?
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Post by chrisfan on Sept 1, 2004 15:48:15 GMT -5
I've often wondered about the story of My City Was Gone - I heard she didn't like it being used, but I don't think she has a choice. Throughout the years, I've heard reports that she was angry about it, and I've heard reports that she didn't care. I've also heard that they fought over it for a while, and Rush agreed to donate a royalty-sized amount of money to PETA on her behalf, and that settled it. Regardless of what she thinks of it, Rush can use it legally because his radio network is owned by Clear Channel, who obviously pays for the licensing to be able to play it. If it were to be withdrawn from Rush being able to use it, then they wouldn't get airplay on music stations either.
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Post by Thorngrub on Sept 1, 2004 15:58:15 GMT -5
Mary, that was a fine rebuttal towards Roc's post. It mirrored some thoughts of mine, of late. Let me see if I can put them into an understandable light.
The feeling I get from the Bush Administration is that Bush is trying, after a fashion, to "kill 2 birds with 1 stone" so to speak, in going after Sadam with the War in Iraq. What I mean by that is simple:
Bird #1: Go after the terrorists (ya gotta start somewhere, right?)
Bird #2: Make some money while we're at it. (What's good for the goose is good for the gander)
In my honest opinion, any decisive "war" versus a shadowy, borderless and elusive enemy as Terrorist-cells and Al-Quaida will not come cheap.
And it automatically - and by absolute necessity - demands that "Bird #2" not even be a consideration, much less an option. For to wage such a complex battle versus such an enigmatic enemy will come very expensively, and not merely in USD. It would come with the cost of much willing sacrifice on the part of the American People.
I'll bet any moderately bright post-graduate student could take the budget already spent on the war vs. Iraq -- take that amount of cold hard US currency -- and easily draft various ingenious plans that would successfully defeat our Jihad-enemies in any manner of insidious, subversive ways.
What -? Is killing them off in an expensive, bloody military conflict that could go on endlessly actually a kinder fate to bestow upon our Jihad-warrior enemies, than paving their sandlots with asphalt & injecting US funds into their defunct economy in an effort to "spike" their culture, "prime their pump" so to speak -?
I can understand how forcing McDonald's down their throats might honestly be considered far more insidious than death.
But I, personally, feel that we should, in fact, show no mercy whatsoever.
As a matter of fact, you'd think president Bush would get a hard-on from the very idea that we could exploit them fully by hiding behind a mask of "mercy" (showering them with Hospitals, Schools, Money, etc) in order to subversively transform their country into little U.S. Junior.
Personally I think the idea has yet to occur to him, or his advisors, or anyone else that is permitted within a 1-mile radius of the man. And the reason I believe this is because he is surrounded by a pack of like-minded Republicans, too bloodthirsty by this late stage of the game to see the nefarious logic of my plan.
If we're going to win this struggle versus extremist religious warriors who churn out generations of suicide bombers the way we churn out lawyers, it is going to be absolutely necessary for us to show no fucking mercy at all, and to just step in there and eradicate their old way of life once and for all: with Capitalism disguised as Kindness; with Money not Bombs.
Only in this fashion would we ever stand a chance of smuggling our God into their places of worship.
Because in Go(l)d We Trust. That is Our Standard. It is the only effective weapon we truly have against them.
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Post by Thorngrub on Sept 1, 2004 16:19:23 GMT -5
What You Won't See at the Republican Convention By Scott Galindez t r u t h o u t | Perspective Tuesday 31 August 2004 " As the Republican convention bears down upon us we are reminded of the age old adage - never judge a book by its cover. A four day festival of moderation is about to launch in New York City, the most "red state" destination in America, and the conservative base that President Bush has pandered to has been asked to exit stage right - off the radar screen, but not out of control. We will not see the real decision makers on television. Like the Great and Powerful Oz, GOP convention planners are hoping that the American people will be so fixated by the image presented on stage that they will never think to look at the right-wing forces behind the curtain, pulling the levers of power." - Ann Lewis Former White House Communications Director and current Director of the Democratic National Committee Women's Vote Center. Republicans are doing their best to keep evangelical Christians - a "core part" of Bush's base - hidden during the upcoming GOP Convention in New York. Instead the party will focus on courting swing voters, by featuring a slate of speakers representing views opposite to those of the president's: pro-choice, pro-gay rights, pro-gun control and anti-death penalty. Religious conservatives are disgruntled by being brushed aside, while moderates receive higher profile roles at the national convention. Ultimately, the masquerading at the convention does little to shield the scope of influence evangelicals have with the Bush White House. After four years of pandering to his right-wing base, Bush is attempting to push them aside for four days in New York, although their influence and presence remain widely known. And simultaneously, the Bush White House continues to do right by its big-business, big-industry cronies, and as a result, do harm to America's workers and families. Bush began courting evangelicals and conservative Christians during his father's 1988 campaign for president, in which he served as the GOP liaison to religious conservatives. According to the Los Angeles Times, "That experience gave ‘Junior,' as he was then known, exposure to two forces that would prove enormously important to his own political rise: the evangelical movement, which has become a core part of his political base; and an emerging style of hardball campaigning, which he used to defeat Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) in the 2000 Republican primaries and has unfurled against his presumed 2004 Democratic opponent, Sen. John F. Kerry of Massachusetts." Despite being ushered to the sidelines during the GOP Convention, evangelicals believe that they, not the moderates on-stage in New York, stand to benefit the most from a second Bush term. According to the Christian Coalition president Roberta Combs, as evangelicals, she says, "We still own the president." The Bush Administration's connections to Corporate America will also not be highlighted on the stage at Madison Square Garden. Bush has rolled back and eliminated a series of important regulations designed to protect the health of families and workers. The Bush administration has taken the most aggressive anti-regulatory posture in memory, fighting back against important rules to side with business interests. Bush is not only trying to raise taxes on middle-class families, he's trying to undermine important protections that save lives. The Bush administration has altered the rule-making power of the Occupational Safety and Health Administration in order to promote the interests of business over workers. In the past 3 1/2 years, OSHA, the branch of the Labor Department in charge of workers' well-being, has eliminated nearly five times as many pending standards as it has completed. It has not started any major new health or safety rules, thereby setting Bush apart from the previous three presidents, including Ronald Reagan. And of course the "War on Terror" has turned into a huge "corporate welfare" program, with corporations like Halliburton and Bechtel getting the lion's share of contracts for projects ranging from housing and feeding our troops to reconstruction in Iraq and Afghanistan. We will not see any speakers from ENRON or El Paso Energy who crafted the Bush-Cheney Energy Policy. We will not see any speakers from Halliburton or the Carlyle Group who have become the beneficiaries of the administration's "War on Terror." To see the true power brokers behind the Bush-Cheney machine, stay tuned to t r u t h o u t' s coverage of the Republican National Convention - we will show you the parties behind the scenes where the real power in the Republican Party will be visible. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - source: www.truthout.org/docs_04/083104Z.shtml
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Post by chrisfan on Sept 1, 2004 16:32:31 GMT -5
I am so tired of all of this "the Republicans are featuring moderates" talk. BOTH parties featured moderates. BOTH parties are courting the moderate voters, because those are the voters who can be swayed the easiest. It's not rocket science. And as I said earlier today ... at least you can identify the dissenters in the Republican party.
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Post by stratman19 on Sept 1, 2004 16:42:50 GMT -5
Hey now...don't forget THE NUGE!!!!C'mon, who wouldn't want a little Cat Scratch Fever at a Republican campaign rally?? The Motor City Madman!!
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Post by stratman19 on Sept 1, 2004 16:44:16 GMT -5
look at this fucking asshole. I wish someone would stab her in the eye. Just In case you missed it, there were just as many fucking assholes at the Democratic convention. Your point is?
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Post by Meursault on Sept 1, 2004 16:46:19 GMT -5
Pissin's just going through that i hate everyone month we all have once in a while Strat. I'm sure he's smart enough to realise he can't judge a book by it's cover, even if it does look really jolly. A time and place...a moment we may not understand.
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Post by stratman19 on Sept 1, 2004 16:46:32 GMT -5
I am so tired of all of this "the Republicans are featuring moderates" talk. BOTH parties featured moderates. BOTH parties are courting the moderate voters, because those are the voters who can be swayed the easiest. It's not rocket science. And as I said earlier today ... at least you can identify the dissenters in the Republican party. That's right Chris, some people just don't get it, or rather apply their famous double standards. At least the Republicans let pro-choice, pro gay rights Republicans speak. Where were all the pro-life Democrats at their convention?
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Post by riley on Sept 1, 2004 19:38:40 GMT -5
Just In case you missed it, there were just as many fucking assholes at the Democratic convention. Your point is? Fair enough Strat, mostly because I'm pretty sure Jon Bon Jovi was there and I'd pretty much prefer to stab that asshole in the eye than any other human that comes to mind readily. I still agree with Pissin' though that the freak in the picture deserves some pain.
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