The politics of rock

[Galactus]

Here's a highly questionale list of the 50 best conservative rock songs. It made me realise that some of the best political rock songs could in fact be taken as a anthem for either side as many are simply written from an underdog standpoint and both sides like to think they're fighting the good fight.

So "meet the new boss same as the old boss"? I always took to mean govenment, right or left, is never really that different. Every one claims top be different from the last guy but in the end they never really are. If we want real change we have to rise up and take it. It's anti establishment, nothing to do with right vs. left.

Won't Get Fooled Again -


We'll be fighting in the streets
With our children at our feet
And the morals that they worship will be gone
And the men who spurred us on
Sit in judgement of all wrong
They decide and the shotgun sings the song

I'll tip my hat to the new constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and grin at the change all around
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
Then I'll get on my knees and pray
We don't get fooled again

The change, it had to come
We knew it all along
We were liberated from the fold, that's all
And the world looks just the same
And history ain't changed
'Cause the banners, they all flown in the last war

I'll tip my hat to the new constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and grin at the change all around
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
Then I'll get on my knees and pray
We don't get fooled again
No, no!

I'll move myself and my family aside
If we happen to be left half alive
I'll get all my papers and smile at the sky
For I know that the hypnotized never lie

Do ya?

Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!

There's nothing in the street
Looks any different to me
And the slogans are replaced, by-the-bye
And the party on the left
Is now the party on the right
And the beards have all grown longer overnight

I'll tip my hat to the new constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and grin at the change all around
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
Then I'll get on my knees and pray
We don't get fooled again
Don't get fooled again
No, no!

[Galactus]

...uh here's the actual link to that list...

article.nationalreview.com/?q=NzZkNDU5MmViNzVjNzkzMDE3NzNlN2MyZjRjYTk4YjE=

[shin]

I thought that song goes "Fool me once, shame on me...fool me twice...won't get fooled again."

[Rit]

ded said:

...uh here's the actual link to that list...

article.nationalreview.com/?q=NzZkNDU5MmViNzVjNzkzMDE3NzNlN2MyZjRjYTk4YjE=

worst. article. ever.

[Dr. Drum]

The co-opting of rock started about 2 minutes after it emerged as a distinct genre (whenever that was exactly)....

No surprise, though, that conservative politicos, having grown up with it just like a lot of the rest of us, would feel the need to stake their own emotional claim. Perhaps all the more so, given the music's general identification with anti-establishment causes.

Pete Townshend says I was just trying to keep my distance…

[Galactus]

Would anyone consider any of those songs actually the product of conservative thought? If not can you think of any?

[Thorngrub]

The politics of dancing.
The politics of oooh, feeling good.

[Matheus]

ded said:

Would anyone consider any of those songs actually the product of conservative thought? If not can you think of any?

Toby Keith songs?

[shin]

Keith is a registered Democrat, believe it or not.

[Galactus]

He claims to be a a hardcore democrat, which is fine, he's still an idiot. The Ramones, most of them were rebulicans though.

[Matheus]

Marilyn Manson is quite conservative. He actually endorsed Bush but then took it back when Bush said some disparaging things about him.

[shin]

I think Manson just hated Lieberman and Tipper Gore.

[Matheus]

I don't think so. If you actually read Manson's lyrics and the shit he rails against... well, he's quite conservative.

[Dr. Drum]

"The Trees" could legitimately be called conservative and read as anti-union (which is fine because Peart went in the opposite direction of a lot of boomers, from young conservative to middle-aged liberal). "Red Barchetta" you could argue but it's pretty questionable – you can surmise that the government behind the Motor Law is authoritarian but there's no indication whatsoever whether it's left or right.

Obviously, though, the article as a whole is fairly ludicrous and he does an awful lot of stretching to make his point.

[sisyphus]

interesting. i had no idea manson was conservative. have not paid that much attention to him, though. once i saw him do an interview, and he seemed purdy intelligent.