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Post by pauledwardwagemann on Jun 23, 2006 11:34:36 GMT -5
And the soul is--that glue that connects us to everything else in the universe. How do you know that? Becasue that is the definiton of the soul. And I'm not even using my definition, I'm using the one thorn and sisyphus put forth on the Roe V Wade thread... oh yea, then there's this too:  |
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Post by Mary on Jun 23, 2006 13:32:24 GMT -5
Is that the end of the proof??
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Post by Galactus on Jun 23, 2006 13:34:58 GMT -5
Oh man, we all just got punk'd!
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Post by Mary on Jun 23, 2006 13:35:12 GMT -5
btw, since this was supposedly related to abortion, doesn't it seem odd that "soul" apparently pervades everything - both organic and inorganic - in the entire universe, on pew's account? I mean, how does this in any way support an argument about the unique preciousness of the human soul? If we are somehow morally obligated to preserve "soul" based upon this logic, then tearing up a piece of paper is every bit the atrocity that aborting a fetus is.
though I'm pretty sure the only thing that "proof" actually proved is that pew isn't a physicist.
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Post by Matheus on Jun 23, 2006 13:37:05 GMT -5
cute kid
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Post by Matheus on Jun 23, 2006 13:37:38 GMT -5
Is that the end of the proof?? There is no proof either way. |
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Post by Galactus on Jun 23, 2006 13:39:55 GMT -5
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Post by Matheus on Jun 23, 2006 13:48:23 GMT -5
Modern Science:
Approximately 15 billion years ago, before the universe came into existence, there was nothing. No time. No space. The universe began in a single point. This point was surrounded by nothingness. It had no width. No depth. No length. This speck contained the whole of space, time, and matter. The point erupted in an explosion of unimaginable force, expanding at the speed of light like a bubble. This energy eventually cooled and coalesced into matter--stars, galaxies, and planets.
16th Century Kabbalist, Isaac Luria:
The universe was created out of nothingness from a single point of Light. This nothingness is called the Endless World. The Endless World was filled with infinite Light. The Light was then contracted to a single point, creating primordial space. Beyond this point nothing is known. Therefore, the point is called the beginning. After the contraction, the Endless World issued forth a ray of Light. This ray of Light then expanded rapidly. All matter emanated from that point.
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Yeah, I've read all of this... but it still doesn't offer any proof. The big bang could have been just some random thing that happened. It's not what I believe, but it could still be true.
I might have faith in such a thing, but who am I to say that someone else should take my faith and see it as fact. The thing is that it's how I perceive the world, and some people around here might possibly think... "bollocks" or "Matheus, you're seriously fucked in the head."
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Post by rockysigman on Jun 23, 2006 13:58:53 GMT -5
I still don't get how any of that makes a human soul more valuable than the soul of an animal or a virus or anything.
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Post by rockysigman on Jun 23, 2006 13:59:10 GMT -5
Yeah, pretty much what Mary said I guess.
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Post by Galactus on Jun 23, 2006 14:01:46 GMT -5
Oh that's becuase we have an obligation our species to protect it. Survival of the fittest and all that.
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Post by sisyphus on Jun 23, 2006 14:07:28 GMT -5
yeah. seems pew is a bit of an anthropocentrist, despite his views on the soul. otherwise, he'd be like a Jainist, sweeping his path before him everywhere he goes, anxious not to tromp on any wee little bugs. imagine him trying to push that broom everywhere AND slug the cute little baby around on his hip... it's an accident waiting to happen if you ask me.
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Post by Kensterberg on Jun 23, 2006 14:53:51 GMT -5
I'm really disappointed ... PEW didn't prove anything ... except (as M noted) that he's no physicist.
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Post by skvorisdeadsorta on Jun 23, 2006 15:00:11 GMT -5
James Brown has soul.......and thank you to Shin no less for giving me a good Killers song to hum to while I am here at work.
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Post by Thorngrub on Jun 23, 2006 15:17:26 GMT -5
I see a corpse with its entire nasal cavity rotted out. oh yeah: jesus |
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