achn2b
Struggling Artist
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Post by achn2b on Jun 6, 2004 11:42:48 GMT -5
not quite so sure. if the puck was in the air rather than along the ice, it may not have crossed the line, even though from that angle it appeared as if it had.
and then, you do have the whole kicking thing to debate also.
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Post by Dr. Drum on Jun 7, 2004 6:10:35 GMT -5
Gift maybe but I wanted to see Calgary finish it off pretty bad in the latter half of that first overtime!  I don’t think that there could possibly have been an argument that it was kicked in. There has to be some kind of discernable kicking motion, some attempt to direct it into the net with your skate. Gelinas was just skating to the net, he didn’t attempt to direct the puck in any direction with his foot. |
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Post by stratman19 on Jun 7, 2004 9:04:07 GMT -5
Calgary got hosed on that call, plain and simple. The boys are going to have to come up with a huge effort tonight. Finish it Calgary!
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Post by riley on Jun 7, 2004 9:45:18 GMT -5
I don't know gang. There's something about having a team on the ropes in your own arena. I wouldn't want to have to call this one.
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Post by Dr. Drum on Jun 7, 2004 10:09:18 GMT -5
Yeah, unless Calgary jumps out to a 4 - 0 lead in the first period this one is going to be excruciating tonight.
Mentally it's got to be tough for Calgary - they had Tampa on the ropes in their own arena and couldn't finish the job. On the other hand, they've got a great road record and an amazing ability to bounce back with a strong effort after a loss. Fingers crossed but a seventh game really can go either way.
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Post by RocDoc on Jun 7, 2004 11:24:20 GMT -5
It's going to be really hard to pick who to root for tonight...all along, i could never get an emotional attachment to the 'almightiness' of Calgary which was being projected to me from a variety of sources....  Then I'm seeing the remote from that St Pete Times building with those scores of hockey fans....in friggin' FLORIDA(!!!)...being as true to the sport as anybody from the 'Original Six' cities....so I feel for them too. Imagining more than just a few of them being transplants FROM those original six cities ...or at least having come to their love of hockey 'honestly', by playing it 'up north' or their kids playing it or something.... I really DID want to see it go the full 7, so NO-ONE would be at all shamed, having gone totally balls out from the start....NOT someone having had a couple of 'bad nights' and getting swept. So I think I'll have to wait til tonight to see who I'm really 'for'....tho for those people in Fla, those fishes-out-of-water regarding a sport played on a sheet of ice, I'm grateful for them showing me the joy, the THRILL they're getting for this weird out-of-place thing happening to them... |
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Post by pattentank24 on Jun 7, 2004 12:51:26 GMT -5
Tampa bay has been lazy the majority of the series their fowards must step the pace up if they are to be sucessful tonight
I picked Tb in 7 and the difference has been the constant pressure Brad Richards puts on Calgary
Unless Jerome and Mika take over and build a two goal lead I do feel Tb will claim the cup for yet another fair weather fan town(I would know being a Thrasher fan)
What's the status for Sean Donavan?
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Post by Dr. Drum on Jun 7, 2004 12:55:10 GMT -5
all along, i could never get an emotional attachment to the 'almightiness' of Calgary which was being projected to me from a variety of sources....
That's kind a puzzling comment, rn. Calgary are the Western Conference's sixth seed. They hadn't made the playoffs for seven years. To get to the finals they knocked off the Western first, second and third seeds. Now they're playing the Eastern first seed for the Cup. Basically, therefore not 'almighty' but total underdogs. They got where they are on hard work, grit and determination. Pretty easy to get behind that.
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Post by Dr. Drum on Jun 7, 2004 12:56:12 GMT -5
I think Donovan is a scratch and possibly Regehr as well.
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Post by RocDoc on Jun 7, 2004 13:53:53 GMT -5
'Almightiness' to a truly hockey-loving but generally less than informed-by-circumstance person in Chicago('...hadn't made the playoffs for seven years' does not exactly make my heart bleed for them, here. Sorry but BFD)is truly relative....
Maybe it's the way that all of Canada's hopes and dreams got pinned on them....making most of you here AND aLOT of the hockey press hold them so high above Tampa Bay....once they got there, that is.
'Total' underdogs? Not my take at just this moment at all...or for the last 2-3 games....
Perhaps less puzzled?
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Post by Dr. Drum on Jun 7, 2004 14:13:00 GMT -5
('...hadn't made the playoffs for seven years' does not exactly make my heart bleed for them, here. Sorry but BFD)
You're misunderstanding me there - it wasn't supposed to make your heart bleed for them. What it tells you is that Calgary hasn't been a top tier team in a long, long time. Even when they made the playoffs, they still weren't expected to get anywhere near the Cup final this year. See, once again, underdogs.
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Post by RocDoc on Jun 7, 2004 14:46:31 GMT -5
Making 'my heart bleed for them' for my sake here, translates really easily, simply into pulling for Calgary, given this 'underdog' status which is so obvious to you, yet not so plain-as-day to me...the 'no-playoffs-in-7-whole-years' as but one component of their 'underdoggedness' you just mentioned.
'Pretty easy to get behind that', as reason-to-support, as reason for my heart to bleed, can apply to TB's ethic as well.
But then I'm also from Chicago where DECADES of hockey futility has made me AND thousands of other hockey fans, not pay as close attention anymore, y'see. Important part of my point.
Wirtz, William Wirtz, Beezlebub. Blame him.
I was trying to make the relative aspect of my inability to right now, during the past 3-4 Cup final games here, to see Calgary as a real underdog, in an intellectually completely thought-out Canadian hockey enthusiaste manner such as yours. I guess....and I suppose I AM the poorer for it.
Sorry I couldn't make that more plain and understandable....through my sticky rationalizations.
How 'bout JUST for the romantic notion that true hockey fans stuck in the sweaty sticky UNcomfortable lands of FLA inspire my admiration and basically I'm not that all concerned right now with 7-10 years of Calgary's poor standings and for Canada/Calgary regaining their 'standing' in its sport?
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Post by Dr. Drum on Jun 7, 2004 21:16:10 GMT -5
This is a hard game to watch. Think Calgary have anything left in the tank?
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Post by stratman19 on Jun 7, 2004 22:08:25 GMT -5
It's looking very bleak Drum.
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Post by Dr. Drum on Jun 7, 2004 22:18:57 GMT -5
Ah well, they made a good third period out of it. One goal separating the two teams in the end, they've got nothing to be ashamed of.
That was a bullshit call by Fraser in the last minute, though.
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