|
|
Post by RocDoc on Jul 9, 2006 21:03:09 GMT -5
...and I'm watching the replay of the final here (in fucking Spanish, might as well be Abbysinian) after the owner of a house we viewed (we were house-shopping this afternoon) told me about Zidane's head-butt....
Plus I was just now marveling at Cannavaro gliding over he field as smoothly as though he was skating on ice...and if you know ANYthing about earth's gravity and shit, that is NOT an easy illusion.
Can we say 'Poetry in motion'?
Fucking beautiful and THAT is the reason why many people love the game.
|
|
|
|
Post by Rit on Jul 9, 2006 21:47:12 GMT -5
hell, that was a great game. i was a hardcore Italia supporter, sitting in the perfect bar (nearly 50% down the middle of both French and Italian supporters).
anyway, after the game, headed off to Little Italy. wow, were they ever going nuts. i've also never seen so many beautiful women in one area in my life before.
what drama. what a way to end it all.
|
|
|
|
Post by maarts on Jul 10, 2006 3:13:31 GMT -5
Yeah, great final! Still marvelling at the way how France managed to drag itself out of its own quagmire and started playing some good football. the second half of that match was just about the best football they've played in aeons.
I have no idea what inspired Zizou to headbutt Materazzi. Dude has had brainsnaps like that before but on this stage? What a shame that this is his farewell.
Favourite conspiracy theorem: The 'diver' Grosso takes the final, winning penalty and the fourth official who instructed the red card to be given to Zidane was Cantelejo, same dude who handed Italy a penalty in the dying seconds against Australia.....and of course the twelve year-cycle kept intact (1970 Italy reached the final and lost, in 1982 Italy reached the final and won, 1994 final lost, 2006 final won)....
Somebody up there must've loved the Italians.
|
|
|
|
Post by dolly on Jul 10, 2006 14:18:52 GMT -5
Dude! Phil! I can be a wet irritating fucking blanket on some bands that I don't 'get' at all...ie the almighty Clash and the revered Replacements for just two of 'em.... But fuck, leave alone something you just don't understand here. These folks love this shit. This is sorta senseless. And especially on the heels of 'Copa Mondial'... Hey Doc, you know what they say.... Don't feed the troll  Heh heh |
|
|
|
Post by dolly on Jul 10, 2006 14:22:38 GMT -5
Depends what he said I guess. I part agree with those who say that as a highly paid pro footballer you should be able to rise above any stick that you get and not react - but then at the end of the day we're all human, and in such a pressurised everything at stake environment as the World Cup Final... Like Ndy says, I don't think we can really make a judgement without knowing all the facts. It is a shame though, a real shame. France had played Italy off the park at times.
One thing I took from that match - if Italy can get over their awful shoot out record, then so the hell can we.
|
|
|
|
Post by maarts on Jul 10, 2006 15:17:38 GMT -5
According to lipreaders, Materazzi had called Zidane's sister a whore.
|
|
|
|
Post by kool on Jul 10, 2006 16:50:27 GMT -5
I heard he insulted his mother and called him a "terrorist". Materazzi has denied the "terrorist" bit, saying he doesn't even know the word in any other language apart from Italian. He didn't say what he did say though.
Obviously Zidane was intentionally provoked. Unfortunately, he took the bait.
|
|
|
|
Post by RocDoc on Jul 10, 2006 17:42:42 GMT -5
Oh man, I finally saw that head-butt! POW! There's no way that that other guy didn't say something extremely insulting...and then him walking after Zidane with his hands out, palms up like 'Hey! Hey, I no say-a nothink to you stupido. WTF.'
Zidane's walking around, tired and with a sore shoulder and he just couldn't focus that this was a completely strategic move...
Hey Doc, you know what they say....
Don't feed the troll
Heh heh
A-ha!
Dolly's wee bit of a wicked side comes out; Res ipsa loquitur (right Counselor Holzman?) indeed. Nicely done.
LOL!
See, when there's a thread that's all-Clash, or all-'Mats I bite my tongue. I have to...but for only so long as the thread stre-e-e-etches through days and days and days. This here is a one-shot (every 4 years) worldwide sporting event which as being a positive shot-in-the-arm for the competing countries and all the rest who've got football/soccer as their 'base sport', there is no way for me to make sense of trying to make it out to be inferior somehow...this thread's going to soon sit untouched for quite a bit I'm gonna guess, so why get these (unfounded, amateurish and supercilious) licks in while 75%, more like 85% of the world is absolutely swooning for what's just finished there?
|
|
|
|
Post by limitdeditionlayla on Jul 10, 2006 20:46:50 GMT -5
Congrats to the Azzurri. How lovely that the sexiest team in the league end up the victors. What a great day for beefcakes the world over. I'm glad the French didn't win & also I guess its good to be able to say my country was defeated by the champions.
The Italian community in Sydney went mental, it was fun.
Also, well done to JLLM who predicted an Italian win way back when.
|
|
|
|
Post by limitdeditionlayla on Jul 10, 2006 20:55:32 GMT -5
In awarding the prize for the other kind of MVP, the most beautiful man of La Copa, I've decided to give it to two men this year: Fabio Cannavaro & Lucas Neill. Well done boys & thanks for making the Beautiful Game a little more aesthetically pleasing.   |
|
|
|
Post by maarts on Jul 11, 2006 5:45:21 GMT -5
Well, to all the naysayers I can only say: 43 pages of passion and debate on one single tournament. To illustrate this even further, compare these stats:
The Bikers-board- so far only has gone up to 15 pages
Baseball- a gutslugging 22 pages
NFL- a well-padded 8 pages
NHL- a puck-wrenching 6 pages
Basketball- a hoop-eless 14 pages.
So at least our little group has proven to be more passionate about our sport.
So to all of you critics:
Pffft!
Ack!
|
|
|
|
Post by maarts on Jul 11, 2006 5:57:07 GMT -5
Italy's Marco Materazzi called Zinedine Zidane a "son of a terrorist whore" just before the France captain gave him a brutal head-butt in the World Cup final, Britain's top forensic lip reader says.
The Times newspaper hired Jessica Rees, whose skill has seen her summoned as an expert witness at criminal trials, to study a tape of Sunday's match that saw Zidane get a red card for his seemingly spontaneous assault.
"After an exhaustive study of the match video, and with the help of an Italian translator, Rees claimed Materazzi called Zidane 'the son of a terrorist whore' before adding 'so just f*** off' for good measure," it said.
Materazzi on Monday denied calling Zidane a terrorist, adding "I don't even know what the word means".
Specially for Mr. Materazzi: www.wikipedia.org
|
|
|
|
Post by riley on Jul 11, 2006 7:22:06 GMT -5
Well, to all the naysayers I can only say: 43 pages of passion and debate on one single tournament. To illustrate this even further, compare these stats: The Bikers-board- so far only has gone up to 15 pages Baseball- a gutslugging 22 pages NFL- a well-padded 8 pages NHL- a puck-wrenching 6 pages Basketball- a hoop-eless 14 pages. So at least our little group has proven to be more passionate about our sport. So to all of you critics: Pffft!Ack!If you add all those pages together it probably still doesn't total the number of dives, faked injuries, and general displays of complete pussy like behaviour I saw in this tournament. It's probably just as well the tournament ended when it did, because if I saw one more grown man rolling around on the ground like a big fucking pussy, I was going to jump on a plane, run out onto one of the fields and whack one of these babies in the arse with a hockey stick. Why do they bring out the stretcher everytime? No one's ever fucking hurt! This was the first time I've actually invested some time in any major soccer event. I can finally see the appeal and have stopped trying to draw parallels to hockey, since it's unfair to bench mark any other sport against hockey. So on some level I'm sold. I'm even prepared to declare soccer players are quite possibly the most talented and well conditioned team sport athletes in major sport...when they're playing soccer. When they're diving and rolling they're nothing short of fucking embarassing. I still may have a lot to learn about the sport's nuances, but the rolling around is shameful. Sorry. |
|
|
|
Post by dolly on Jul 11, 2006 8:04:58 GMT -5
Dolly's wee bit of a wicked side comes out; Res ipsa loquitur (right Counselor Holzman?) indeed. Nicely done.
LOL!Yes, I speak not for it - my wickedness do indeed speak for itself.  >>insert Phil's raised eyebrows here<< I heard that we will find out just what Materazzi said to Zidane on Thursday. I feel it's all being built up a tad now. It's been discussed and theorised about so much by the media that when we finally are told it's going to be like "oh is that all?". It's like building up a joke too much only for the punchline to not deliver. I fear that Zidane is going to wind up looking silly through no fault of his own.
|
|
|
|
Post by dolly on Jul 11, 2006 8:10:45 GMT -5
I'm even prepared to declare soccer players are quite possibly the most talented and well conditioned team sport athletes in major sport...when they're playing soccer. When they're diving and rolling they're nothing short of fucking embarassing. I still may have a lot to learn about the sport's nuances, but the rolling around is shameful. Sorry.
It is shameful, Riley. And no ones saying any different. The US, Brazil, Australia, England, and the Netherlands are teams that have been mainly supported on this thread, and we've all suffered some pretty bad decisions as a consequence of some of the tournament's other teams diving antics. So more than anyone here, we want it to stop.
But it's just a small unsavoury element of the game - and one which - if FIFA had any balls at all - would be stamped out. Show the Ronaldo's of the game a few red cards followed with significant suspensions and proper heavy fines (not the equivalent of 15 minutes work for their overinflated salaries) and it would soon stop. Alas, while Blatte is at the helm, I doubt that's likely to occur. But it will one day in the not too distant future. It has to.
|
|
