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Post by luke on Aug 31, 2004 8:54:15 GMT -5
Supercar rocks.
i saw Dazed and Confused tonight on the Oxygen channel,
I noticed that, but the real question to me was, "What the FUCK was Dazed and Confused doing on the goddamn Oxygen Channel?"
I'm not a big fan of the movie on TV. They edit EVERYTHING. All the pot references, the language, blah.
But yeah, I LIVED that movie, minus the tight pants. We had a moon tower, we had a pool hall, we broke in the freshman, it was fucking beautiful. That's definitely one of my favorite movies of all time.
CWA's latest ranting reminded me a LOT of Ikkshvaku's when after he left for awhile. Soon he'll be back around calling us "rockists."
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Post by maarts on Aug 31, 2004 9:08:45 GMT -5
Mebbe someone ought to bash him up...again?
And what in the blue blazes is the Oxygen Channel?
I only know the Dazed & Confused-soundtrack that still sells pretty well in our store...no surprises since most of our customers are....
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Post by achn2b on Aug 31, 2004 10:23:32 GMT -5
i was kinda surprised too. at first i thought it must have been comedy central or tbs, but then i saw the little spider in the corner of the screen for the Oxygen channel.
oxygen channel is, i believe, programming for women. not as schmaltzy as the family channel, but supposed to be for the sophisticated, independent woman.
so nothing like a little teen wastoid humor to satisfy that demographic.
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Post by tuneschick on Aug 31, 2004 11:31:05 GMT -5
I'm not a big fan of the movie on TV. They edit EVERYTHING. All the pot references, the language, blah. Really? Everytime I've seen it on TV here, it's never, ever been edited. Most recently it's been on the "Diva" channel, which sounds similar to the Oxygen channel... and I had the same "WTF?" reaction. Some movies just don't belong on TV. My favourite is still when they decided to show Showgirls on TBS... and they painted little black bras on all the naked strippers. I still laugh about that on a semi-regular basis. |
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Post by pattentank24 on Aug 31, 2004 12:34:25 GMT -5
Worst edited movie on Tv....
Scarface on TNT such memorable phrases as
"Go Thank Yourself"/Thank Me,NO Thank You/ and my personal favorite
"I don't like you your a freaking hot dog"(since when can you not say cockroach on tv)
and the entire chainshaw scene is cut all you see is Tony going inside and Manny sitting in the car while they fade to commercial they return with Tony running out of the building
Top 10 songs right now for me this week
1. The Postal Service "Against All Odds"
2. Interpol- "Not Even Jail"
3. The Libertines- "Can't Stand Me Now"
4. Radio 4- "Our Town"
5. BRMC- "The Hardest Button To Button"
6. The Start- "Glimmer Man"
7. Pearl Jam- "Lowlight"
8. The Veils- "The Tide Never Came Back"
9. The Killers "Jenny Was a Friend Of Mine(did you know this song is about a stalker who murders his friend?)
10. The Shore- "Hard Road"(if you like the verve check this group out)
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Post by Dr. Drum on Aug 31, 2004 12:37:44 GMT -5
I think I mostly just wanted to defend the idea of a song about famous chefs throwing women into ovens  Actually I'm curious Drum, since I've been on such a Birthday Party jag lately - do you own/listen to Birthday Party stuff at all? Given you're kind of a Boatman's Call man, I'd be curious how the Birthday Party sits with you, in particular if you think they were just too over-the-top and self-parodic. Mary, I’ve heard enough of the Birthday Party to have an idea of what they were about but not enough to really be familiar with individual albums or anything. Actually, there’s a little shop here that has what I’d guess is most of their catalogue at reasonable prices. I’ve thumbed through it a few times but I’ve bought a lot of new stuff lately, so I’ve held off on picking anything up for now. Back to Nick Cave – maybe Nocturama is just the result of shoddy songwriting but Nick made the point of saying that it was the product of a more immediate type of recording process in the interviews published when it was released, one designed to maintain a certain creative spark. I’m just guessing that inspiration or writer’s block might be issues, there could be other things, especially in a music industry context, with a band to keep together, etc. etc. R.E.M. said something similar about getting out of the game if they ever got useless, BTW. It might be ill-advised to say this before their new record comes out but with all due respect to Ken’s take on that band post-Bill Berry, whenever I see that video for "Bad Day", or whatever the single from the hits collection was called, I think this is a band that really doesn’t need to be here anymore. Not that I hold the comment against them or (to get back to the point) think Nick Cave has come close to the point where he’s useless, it’s just that it’s hard to be so cut and dried about stopping something which becomes as second nature and as much a part of oneself as making art or writing songs. Similarly, if Nick is mimicking past moves in an attempt to get around some sort of creative block, I don’t think he’d necessarily be totally conscious of this. Finally in this perhaps too rambling post, I can see the rationale for liking NMSWP more than The Boatman’s Call even if I don’t share the view. I’ve always thought "As I Sat By Her Side", the title track and "Love Letter" were as good and arguably better than any individual song on TBC. I also like the dynamic of the record – wise move to use the Bad Seeds to full advantage again after a record as spartan as TBC. Where the NMSWP falls down for me is when the writing gets awkward in songs like "Hallelujah" and "God is in the House". Whether he’s in Romantic or psychotic mode, Nick’s writing at its best has a real elegance about it and that’s something I really find lacking in parts of NMSWP. |
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Post by Mary on Aug 31, 2004 12:49:15 GMT -5
Fair enough Drum - I guess we just have to wait and see if the new albums are equally disappointing! As for R.E.M., jeez, haven't they been useless since like 1986 or something?!  (just teasing!) On NMSWP, I do agree with you about Hallelujah - a song I really could do without (though Nick seems to like it, being as he keeps insisting on playing it live - bleh!) though I still think God is in the House is fun. But we've had that discussion before. I think the best moment on the album is actually Oh My Lord, which builds to a swirling climax in classic Bad Seeds manner. It's not quite The Mercy Seat - but then, nothing is. BTW I've made this offer to a number of people and apparently people are soooo disinterested in the band that they don't even want to hear their stuff for free (except punkchick!), but I've got a spare Birthday Party mix I made that I'd be happy to send you. Here is the track listing - cause it's a bit off. I discovered after burning it there's some kind of fucked-up track listing on my copy of Hits where there's a mystery track that never plays at #10, so all the songs were one off and I ended up recording some of the wrong songs and missing two classic tunes, Big-Jesus-Trash-Can and Hamlet (Pow, Pow, Pow) - but it's still pretty damn good, this is the track listing: Deep in the Woods Wildworld Dead Joe Nick the Stripper King Ink Mr. Clarinet Six Inch Gold Blade She's Hit Dead Joe (alternate version) Six Strings That Drew Blood Sonny's Burning Release the Bats Swampland Zoo-Music Girl Mutiny in Heaven ...yeah, I definitely did not mean to include two different versions of Dead Joe - shit, i don't know if I'd even bother to include one on the perfect Birthday Party mix! And Swampland instead of Jennifer's Veil is really off, too. But there's still loads of good stuff there. NP: Mos Def & Talib Kweli - Black Star (song: Definition) Cheers, M |
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Post by tuneschick on Aug 31, 2004 13:22:25 GMT -5
I'm sorry to interrupt and ignore all current conversation, but I'm having a fucking heart attack, and my hands are literally shaking as I write this...
SOCIAL DISTORTION IS COMING TO TORONTO!!!!!!!!!
For all other times when I've been excited about bands coming to town... none of them are anything compared to this. Holy fuck. Holyfuckholyfuckholyfuck.
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Post by JesusLooksLikeMe on Aug 31, 2004 13:50:43 GMT -5
2. Interpol- "Not Even Jail"
You know, I always considered the Joy Division comparisons to be lazy - based purely on some high bass parts and Banks' baritone - until I heard the two verses to this wonderful song. Then later on the album "Length of Love" hammers home the fact that on Antics Interpol have mischievously decided to show us what it really sounds like when they consciously try to emulate Joy Division.
What can you tell me about the Postal Service?
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Post by pissin2 on Aug 31, 2004 13:52:31 GMT -5
It's ok to be excited. I'll be seeing them in philly. Hopefully that is, unless it sells out in .5 seconds and I don't get shit.
My favorite edit is still Half Baked when Bob Saget says "I use to suck feet for coke!" (instead of dick)
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Post by pissin2 on Aug 31, 2004 14:03:38 GMT -5
I just checked ticketmaster and now there is also a Bad Religion date up. Now I'm really happy.
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Post by JesusLooksLikeMe on Aug 31, 2004 14:07:38 GMT -5
Also Patten, did you notice the sprinkling of Joy Division lyrics in this album? It's almost as if Interpol are having a less than subtle joke about the constant comparisons.
"Can you see what you've done to my heart...and soul?"
"...meaning to the means to your end..."
Probably the most cohesive lyrics on the album to boot, given the bizarrities on offer elsewhere on the lyric sheet. There's still a scattergun approach that marries painful lines ("I'm subtle like a lion's cage"? Argh!) with head-scratching mock-profundity: "Time is like a broken watch/ I make money like Fred Astaire."
You've got to laugh. Peerless music though.
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Post by luke on Aug 31, 2004 14:08:43 GMT -5
Must be just in Canada...
I can't bear the thought of Scarface on TV. When I first saw that a few years back, I was baffled. What really sucks is that people who are seeing it for the first time really think it's that bad.
What's with changing words in movies, anyway? I'd rather just hear stuff bleeped or muted. I think everyone would.
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Post by JesusLooksLikeMe on Aug 31, 2004 14:13:08 GMT -5
I remember when the BBC used to change movie dialogue. Lead to some confusing lines, like in (I think) Ferris Bueller's Day Off, when one of the characters kept saying "What the [hell]. Hey, if you can't say it you can't do it."
Also led to some confusion in my copy of ErotikParade 6, when Frau Schlicken kept saying "Ja! Ja! Hell mein arse".
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Post by Dr. Drum on Aug 31, 2004 15:40:58 GMT -5
As for R.E.M., jeez, haven't they been useless since like 1986 or something?! (just teasing!) No way, Mary. In '86 they put out Lifes Rich Pageant which was 'da bomb'. And then in '87 we had Document which as everyboby knows, was 'tha' shit'. On that off-kilter Birthday Party mix, thanks for the offer and sure, I’d be happy to take it off your hands. I’ll PM you with an address later. Listening to the Finn Bros. again on the way home. Isn’t "All God’s Children" just the best? Prosaic title maybe but they get that Enz voodoo going and it's like a love letter the to the friggin' Tories and Republicans or something, trying to figure out what ails 'em. Just thought I’d throw that out there.  Got to make you less lonely |
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Actually I'm curious Drum, since I've been on such a Birthday Party jag lately - do you own/listen to Birthday Party stuff at all? Given you're kind of a Boatman's Call man, I'd be curious how the Birthday Party sits with you, in particular if you think they were just too over-the-top and self-parodic.
(just teasing!) On NMSWP, I do agree with you about Hallelujah - a song I really could do without (though Nick seems to like it, being as he keeps insisting on playing it live - bleh!) though I still think God is in the House is fun. But we've had that discussion before. I think the best moment on the album is actually Oh My Lord, which builds to a swirling climax in classic Bad Seeds manner. It's not quite The Mercy Seat - but then, nothing is. 
