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Post by maarts on May 18, 2004 8:40:47 GMT -5
You could claim a whole number of crooners to be influential on Cave's vocal. There's indeed a measuredness about the way he sings, almost a declaration of lyrics in a sense. Personally I liked some journo comparing him to 'Scott Walker drowning his sorrows in hell'.
With Morrison it's more flighty- yeah, he has a nice deepness in his voice but he sounds so detached from earth- either angry, high or even bored.
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Post by Thorngrub on May 18, 2004 11:14:09 GMT -5
[glow=red,2,300]I was always attracted the most to albums like Hyaena (featuring Dazzle and Swimming Horses) for the orchestral bits and the thundering guitar of Robert Smith, Tinderbox (so underrated!) and the oddity and diversity of the covers-albumThrough The Looking Glass [/glow]- maarts I concur. [fave song from those: "Cities In Dust"] Another one that I truly believe is overlooked, underrated, and quite simply a majestic, swirling, hallucinogenic masterpiece would be PEEPSHOW.2 other faves of mine would be JUJU & NOCTURNE (their live album). And of course you can never go wrong w/ The Creatures, either.  |
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Post by Thorngrub on May 18, 2004 11:17:02 GMT -5
Anyone seen Cave's collection The Videos yet-? I really wanna check that out. Must, purchase, soon. I wonder what the viddy to STAGGER LEE is like - ? 
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Post by riley on May 18, 2004 12:15:07 GMT -5
Too many colours Thorny. You're fucking tripping me out man.  |
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Post by bowiglou on May 18, 2004 13:12:04 GMT -5
.....well good morning Lizard King acolytes.......Mary, think I'll skip the Morisson discussion as I really think, once your nestled into your emiritus tenure-tracked position where you no longer have to justify your existence, except to have sophomores knock on your office asking question such as " Dr Blaney, is there life after death, and if so, would a post-modernist be moritified with the thought of such?...also, can I do extra credit for that f*&king C- you just gave me".............anyway, once your in that position of fame or glory, you'll recline in your ergonomical chair that cost taxpayers a princely sum and don your cyberphones and listen, in exact order: (1) The Doors; (2) Strange Days; (3) Waiting for the Sun; (4) Love Parade; (5) Morrison Hotel and (6) LA Woman and have a total and all-encompassing ephiphany.....
...seriously, I really think that will happen...by then, of course, I'll be long gone, but you'll look poignantly up at the stars and think amongst yourself: "that Bowiglou..he really was right all along"
...which brings me to the 2nd point, since I handed in grades last week, now I'm starting to get the cursory: "Dr. bowiglou.....I really need to get a ____ (insert grade of choice, but generally C or higher), so is there anything I can do?"....................thankfully, I have written in my syllabus in bold that I don't do extra credit!!......
Hey, you all..how do you get all those groovy pictures?
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Post by Kensterberg on May 18, 2004 13:24:42 GMT -5
Drum -- I do not discount the fact that what I may be hearing in Cave is simply someone born with a similar set of pipes to Jimbo. In fact, that could be what it is. If Nick just didn't sound so damn much like the Lizard King, I think I'd have an easier time with his stuff. But as it is, I just can't see myself listening much to Nick. In fact, I think I may delete the handful of tunes I've got on my iPod.
NP: The Beatles, Long Tall Sally (I'm listening to the early Beatles in chronological order, 1962 to the end)
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Post by bowiglou on May 18, 2004 13:35:29 GMT -5
ohh..beatles in order...shit, as a kid I had a album of Beatles with Tony Sheridan that I think was dated 1961...what a doofus that I gave it away.......I'm not a huge fan of early Beatle rockers as long tall sally or roll over beehtoven.....rather I gravitated towards Dont Bother Me, You Cant Do That, I'll get You, etc............
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Post by Dr. Drum on May 18, 2004 13:44:00 GMT -5
anyway, once your in that position of fame or glory, you'll recline in your ergonomical chair that cost taxpayers a princely sum and don your cyberphones and listen, in exact order: (1) The Doors; (2) Strange Days; (3) Waiting for the Sun; (4) Love Parade; (5) Morrison Hotel and (6) LA Woman and have a total and all-encompassing ephiphany.....
I think, about this same time, Bow will be having a similar epiphany listening to (in succession) Permanent Waves, Moving Pictures, Signals, Grace Under Pressure and Power Windows at the end of which, he'll be heard to mutter, "Gee Drum and Riley were right about Rush all along. Listen to the subtle John McGeoch influence on Alex's guitar on Power Windows. Abosolutely spellbinding. And Moving Pictures is exactly the classic they claimed all along…"
Ken, all I can say is thankfully I don't hear ol' Jimbo when Nick sings. I mean, despite their vocal similarities, I just don't associate one with the other at all!
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Post by bowiglou on May 18, 2004 13:48:02 GMT -5
fat chance drumstein....but then again, never underestimate ones change in taste when I'm deeply ensconced in dementia!!!!..............but out of fairness, I've really never listened to Rush, so I shouldn't judge........
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Post by strawman on May 18, 2004 15:14:10 GMT -5
JAC...I can't help you with your 8 track...but I do have a vinyl copy of Young Loud And Snotty...and it'll always be in my top 5 punk albums...yeah Stiv Bators really was the American Johnny Rotten...
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Post by PC on May 18, 2004 15:22:45 GMT -5
I'm kind of neutral toward The Doors. Like some of their songs, have The Very Best of... CD, but I'm not obsessed with them or anything. They're not terrible IMO, but not the best either.
~PunkChick
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Post by Meursault on May 18, 2004 15:58:46 GMT -5
Who are todays singer/songwriter legends tommorow?
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Post by ClubberLang on May 18, 2004 16:08:54 GMT -5
I actually love The Doors bashing(even though I can see that you non-likers have held up your fire a bit). The Doors were the most dangerous band of the late 60's and whatever you guys say this can't be denied in my mind. All that said, they wrote the most impressionable music in my mind at that time. Sure Jim was a drunk asshole a lot of the time but that's what made it so good. it was real and the music was soulfull. The poetry, you can take it for what it is worth. Morrison took his poetry seriously but he never thought he was better than Dylan. Dylan isn't an easy target to insult, he's untouchable, but Morrison was and still is. That's what makes his poetry and music more ballsy than anything Dylan ever did. Morrison comes off more human than Dylan. He had major issues and that's why i love him.
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Post by Kensterberg on May 18, 2004 16:10:00 GMT -5
Tomorrow's Singer/Songwriter Legends Today ...
1. Shane Simpson (just a boy, his guitar, and a microphone: the new Dylan).
2. Mary Blaney (known to deliver her lyrics in a beat-poetic fashion, backed by shreeking violins and demonic percussion).
3. John Oates Dog (the seventies legend finally gets his due).
4. JACkory (underappreciated cult figure gets national attention when one of his tunes is used for an underwear commercial).
5. Pete Yorn (the only person on this list who has actually released an album -- actually, two very good ones).
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