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Post by Paul on Jan 11, 2006 8:59:28 GMT -5
Television's Marquee Moon is quite the visionary album.....When I first heard it, I thought wow, this is where every alt rock band of the 80's and early 90's got a huge chunk of their sound. What are y'alls thoughts on this?
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Post by Rit on Jan 11, 2006 9:10:21 GMT -5
it's a good album, but i don't agree that its where every alt rock band of the 80s and 90s got their sound. that's a huge claim to make.
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Post by Rit on Jan 11, 2006 9:13:55 GMT -5
wellll... i never thought of that. perhaps you're right. i need to listen to that again. it's been a while.
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Post by Rit on Jan 11, 2006 9:15:11 GMT -5
i bought the remastered nicely packaged version of Marquee Moon, but i've gone and lost the disc! when i find the friend that stole it off me, he's a goner.
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Post by Paul on Jan 11, 2006 9:36:21 GMT -5
it's a good album, but i don't agree that its where every alt rock band of the 80s and 90s got their sound. that's a huge claim to make. No you're right, that is a huge claim to make....It's (Marquee Moon) extremely influential, and helped pave the way for many of the bands that came after. Not every band followed this sound, but many did take note of Television's style. |
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Post by Kensterberg on Jan 11, 2006 10:22:52 GMT -5
I wouldn't say that "every" alt rock band stole Television's sound, but they are definitely among the most influential punk bands. In fact, Marquee Moon is hugely influential in that it didn't sell that many copies, but tons of people who bought it either were in bands or went on to form bands. Marquee Moon is sort of the VU catalog in miniature, its influence far outweighs its sales and general recognition.
Rocky's a big fan of Television, I believe. He might have some thoughts on this. And FWIW, I've gotta agree that Marquee Moon fits right into my definition of visionary albums. I didn't have it listed in my earlier post, but it easily could've made the cut if I'd expanded it to ten or fifteen albums.
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Post by Paul on Jan 11, 2006 11:14:35 GMT -5
What would your list of top 25 Visionary albums look like?
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Post by rockysigman on Jan 11, 2006 13:29:09 GMT -5
I'm still not exactly sure what the criteria for a "Visionary Album" is, but if such a thing exists, then Marquee Moon would be awfully close to the top of the list. And really, it's completely about the guitars. The songs are good, and the rhythm section is tight, but the reason to listen to Television are those two guitars, plain and simple. It's not just that both of those guys were great at playing, but the way they interacted is unparalled.
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Post by Kensterberg on Jan 11, 2006 13:37:38 GMT -5
See, I knew Rocky would have something to say about this. And he's exactly right, Marquee Moon is all about those fabulous guitars. And the way that they sounded like nothing else at the time or previously. This record belongs waaaay up the list of great guitar albums. And it has absolutely nothing to do with how fast can you play or other such shit.
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Post by Paul on Jan 11, 2006 13:54:24 GMT -5
The guitar playing is indeed excellent; that is almost as good as any example I can think of on how to play when you have 2 guitarist in the band...The drummer ain't so shabby either....
I would think criteria for a visionary album would be one that's simply ahead of it's time, influences other bands (many of whom go on to be more popular) and still has a fresh sound many years after it's release; like Marquee Moon for example.
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Post by melon1 on Jan 11, 2006 13:57:07 GMT -5
And "Elevation" is the best track, correct? RocDoc'll back me on that one.
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Post by Paul on Jan 11, 2006 13:59:00 GMT -5
Another prime example of a visionary album is Vs. from Mission of Burma. The first time I heard it, I couldn't believe it was released in 1982. I think it could easily pass for something released within the past 5 years. Also, MOB is a band that influenced many others, yet never were that popular themselves.
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Post by Paul on Jan 11, 2006 14:00:12 GMT -5
And "Elevation" is the best track, correct? RocDoc'll back me on that one. I like the title track myself. |
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Post by rockysigman on Jan 11, 2006 14:00:14 GMT -5
And "Elevation" is the best track, correct? RocDoc'll back me on that one. My favorites are "Venus" and "Marquee Moon", with a special nod to "Torn Curtain" as well. "Elevation" does kick some major ass though. |
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Post by rockysigman on Jan 11, 2006 14:02:26 GMT -5
I think I listen to Signals, Calls and Marches more than I listen to Vs., but I think that's mostly because it's just an easier listen. Vs. is just so dense that I just don't find myself as willing to subject myself to it as often. It's really an amazing album though, just not one I can listen to without dedicating my full attention to it, and so it doesn't get all the spins it deserves. Also, "That's When I Reach for My Revolver" is one my my top 5 (shit, maybe top 3) songs all time, and so when I want to listen to MoB, that one tends to get the nod more often. What a band, eh? I dont' have the reunion album they did yet though...I'm not sure what I'm waiting for.
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