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Post by luke on Sept 29, 2005 13:23:39 GMT -5
Yeah, AIC certainly deserves it.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, Stone Temple Pilots blew Aerosmith about 50 miles off the fucking stage when I saw them open for Tyler and co. a few years back. A very tight band with an immense stage presence.
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Post by melon1 on Sept 29, 2005 13:31:55 GMT -5
Chose not to vote seeing that the most underrated band ever, Blind Melon, wasn't a choice. I don't see how anyone could put any of these bands in the same Galaxie, if you will, as Blind Melon.
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Post by ClubberLang on Sept 30, 2005 17:47:48 GMT -5
Chose not to vote seeing that the most underrated band ever, Blind Melon, wasn't a choice. I don't see how anyone could put any of these bands in the same Galaxie, if you will, as Blind Melon. I almost put Blind Melon in the poll but i figured they'd be lost in the mix by the posters here. They are very underrated and one of my favorite bands. I just figured Sublime was a better fit for the poll. Looks like i was wrong with that assumption cause nobody has commented on them yet. Brad Nowell was a fucking genius though
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Post by Kensterberg on Sept 30, 2005 18:51:03 GMT -5
Most Underrated Bands (in no real order):
1. Buddy Holly and the Crickets (just as much a "band" as TP and the Heartbreakers, and the first of its kind! damn fine players as well) 2. The Kinks (if not on a par with the Beatles or the Who, certainly at least the equal of the Stones) 3. Nirvana (how soon we forget, the greatest American band of their time, it's just too bad that time was so short) 4. The Smithereens (Jeff Tweedy should've thrown mention of these guys into "The Late Greats" for all the killer songs they cut that never got played on the radio: the success they actually enjoyed was nothing compared to what should have been) 5. The English Beat (two out of three studio LPs were classics, not a bad average at all) 6. Material Issue (another tragic rock and roll ghost, never have Yanks sounded more like the Jam) 7. Mott the Hoople 8. Steely Dan 9. The Housemartins 10. Dream Syndicate
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Post by ClubberLang on Sept 30, 2005 18:52:32 GMT -5
Most Underrated Bands (in no real order): 1. Buddy Holly and the Crickets (just as much a "band" as TP and the Heartbreakers, and the first of its kind! damn fine players as well) 2. The Kinks (if not on a par with the Beatles or the Who, certainly at least the equal of the Stones) 3. Nirvana (how soon we forget, the greatest American band of their time, it's just too bad that time was so short) 4. The Smithereens (Jeff Tweedy should've thrown mention of these guys into "The Late Greats" for all the killer songs they cut that never got played on the radio: the success they actually enjoyed was nothing compared to what should have been) 5. The English Beat (two out of three studio LPs were classics, not a bad average at all) 6. Material Issue (another tragic rock and roll ghost, never have Yanks sounded more like the Jam) 7. Mott the Hoople 8. Steely Dan 9. The Housemartins 10. Dream Syndicate read the first post. the point of this thread was to mention certain "popular" bands that don't get enough credit. Not bands that only people from Botswana know about
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Post by Kensterberg on Sept 30, 2005 19:10:04 GMT -5
Who didn't you know about in that list, Clubber? Every one of those bands had top forty hits in the US, UK, or both. Most of them had gold or platinum LPs here in the US. None of these acts were willfully obscure, and the fact that you don't recognize them surely means that they are underrated.
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Post by Kensterberg on Sept 30, 2005 19:11:17 GMT -5
OOPS! Ok, Dream Syndicate never had a hit ... but Bowiglou knows who they were! Also not sure what the top sales of Material Issue's LPs were, but they obtained more than a little name recognition.
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Post by ClubberLang on Sept 30, 2005 19:15:02 GMT -5
i didn't recognize 6, 7 , 9 and 10. And a top 40 hit doesn't mean they were "popular" for a decent amount of time. Mili Vanilli had popular hits and sold millions of albums but i wouldn't put them in my poll. I was trying to find bands that most people knew about. I'm sure you've heard all the bands in the poll, i bet 50% of the people here have no idea about some of the bands you listed as "underrated". Yeah, they are "underrated", they are under the "radar". Should i have put Escape Club in the poll too? They had that awesome Wild Wild West song in the 80's
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Post by Kensterberg on Sept 30, 2005 19:25:08 GMT -5
Here's the rundown on those bands, then:
6. Material Issue: power-pop trio from the midwest (I think) that were getting a lot of buzz in the early nineties. Had a couple of songs played on MTV, some radio and soundtrack play, and then the lead singer killed himself. At least that's how I remember it. This one is (along with #10) the most obscure band here.
7. Mott the Hoople: killer glam-band featuring frontman Ian Hunter. First found fame with their near-definitive recording of Bowie's anthemic "All the Young Dudes." Plenty popular for several years in the early and middle seventies, now all too often totally forgotten.
9. The Housemartins: One of, if not the, best of the UK in the middle eighties. Tuneschick is a fan, and I believe Bowiglou and a couple more here are as well. Two great proper albums, a killer singles/odds 'n' ends collection, and something like two or three years at the Top of the Pops in the UK. Their cover of "Caravan of Love" was a number one hit in Britain.
10. Dream Syndicate: OK, this one was willfully obscure. But dammit, Steve Wynn's original group deserves better than to be totally forgotten. Dream Syndicate were probably the best of L.A.'s "paisley underground" scene in the early eighties, but this spot could just as easily have gone to a hundred other bands who put on great shows, released their records on indie labels (before there was such a term as "indie-rock") and basically delivered on the DIY promise that punk had re-ignited. This one was for the Suburbs, the Phones, Green On Red, and a hundred others. Yeah, this one was obscure, but it was for a point.
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Post by ClubberLang on Sept 30, 2005 19:29:07 GMT -5
Here's the rundown on those bands, then: 6. Material Issue: power-pop trio from the midwest (I think) that were getting a lot of buzz in the early nineties. Had a couple of songs played on MTV, some radio and soundtrack play, and then the lead singer killed himself. At least that's how I remember it. This one is (along with #10) the most obscure band here. 7. Mott the Hoople: killer glam-band featuring frontman Ian Hunter. First found fame with their near-definitive recording of Bowie's anthemic "All the Young Dudes." Plenty popular for several years in the early and middle seventies, now all too often totally forgotten. 9. The Housemartins: One of, if not the, best of the UK in the middle eighties. Tuneschick is a fan, and I believe Bowiglou and a couple more here are as well. Two great proper albums, a killer singles/odds 'n' ends collection, and something like two or three years at the Top of the Pops in the UK. Their cover of "Caravan of Love" was a number one hit in Britain. 10. Dream Syndicate: OK, this one was willfully obscure. But dammit, Steve Wynn's original group deserves better than to be totally forgotten. Dream Syndicate were probably the best of L.A.'s "paisley underground" scene in the early eighties, but this spot could just as easily have gone to a hundred other bands who put on great shows, released their records on indie labels (before there was such a term as "indie-rock") and basically delivered on the DIY promise that punk had re-ignited. This one was for the Suburbs, the Phones, Green On Red, and a hundred others. Yeah, this one was obscure, but it was for a point. thanks for the rundown on the bands, some people might be interested with your description of them, i have no interest however. Glam bands and 80's rock doesn't appeal to me at all unless you're talking about cheesy 80's rock or metal bands like metallica or Guns and Roses
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Post by strat-0 on Oct 1, 2005 14:04:22 GMT -5
Mott was always one of my faves. Glam alright, but with something behind it. Their cover of Sweet Jane was brilliant. One of the Boys - often overlooked rock classic. It doesn't get much heavier than that. Just the right amount of camp. I give points to bands that don't take themselves too seriously. All the Way from Memphis... Let's not forget that Ready for Love was a Mott tune.
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Post by Kensterberg on Oct 1, 2005 16:50:14 GMT -5
I knew that there would be someone to back me up on Mott! Thanks Strat-0!
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Post by RocDoc on Oct 1, 2005 17:43:20 GMT -5
Well, shouldn't the board title then be 'The World's All-Time Most Underrated Band Among Just These 8 Bands'?
'Underrated' doesn't include Botswana? Y'all better watch yerself Clubber, before we use that race card here...
Mott The Hoople definitely was great band...Ralphs as a nice concise player early on, who blossomed with Bad Company and became a player held in high enough esteem that he often became hired gun for people like Dave Gilmour. Ian Hunter teamed with Mick Ronson, post-Mott) should've been huge too.
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Post by ClubberLang on Oct 1, 2005 18:21:55 GMT -5
i changed it, happy!!??!!!
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Post by luke on Oct 2, 2005 11:51:01 GMT -5
Blind Melon would have fit in a lot better than Sublime. Blind Melon is vastly underrated, but, well...they only have two full-lengths, a B-side complation, and a greatest hits. They got snubbed out before they hit their stride.
As for Sublime, I think the general reaction around here is that they're easily lumped in with the likes of So Cal douchebags like The Offspring, Sugar Ray, No Doubt, and 311. Think folks here the first few chords of "What I Got" and think, "frat boy cheesy garbage."
I disagree, though. Sublime managed to mix up influences by the Red Hot Chili Peppers, Bob Marley, and the Pixies in ways that no one else even came close to. Nowell's sleazy So Cal gutter punk vision is vivid and disgusting, and there are Sublime songs I can't even listen to because the imagery is so vile. He had an unorthodox way of describing the hurt of his addictions, covering up his pain with outward light-heartedness.
Except for the shitty fucking Eagles, Sublime is probably the weakest band on this list. But they certainly deserve a place in history outside of bullshit bands like The Bloodhound Gang and Smash Mouth.
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