|
|
Post by wayved on Oct 27, 2005 23:37:10 GMT -5
I ALMOST spent MONEY on the Franz Ferdinand album (first one) but I figured there must be something better to spend it on....I picked up the Kaiser Chiefs and I shudda known better...That got traded in the same week! Most of the above bands are so WEAK! No imagination at all. That being said did they say that about XTC way back when? Or Joy Division? Who am I to spout?
Mary may be right--these are the new nauseating boy bands of 2005. fuck that. I may be getting older but I am more open minded now than ever. I would rather dig through the past. I am so glad I own a turntable. That does sound a bit crochity eh?
Theres so many bands -- I want to start one cos this crap is nowhere. Im sure, between everyone on these boards, a band could be formed...Popular music isnt evolving--at least on the surface soundscan scene. I want to move to the woods.......either that or new zealand.
|
|
|
|
Post by Dr. Drum on Oct 28, 2005 7:27:38 GMT -5
I think the word "quirky" used to appear in almost 100% of the articles and reviews written on XTC, good, bad or indifferent, but I can’t recall anyone ever accusing them of lacking imagination.
To go back to BSP, yes, they’re obviously on their own tack, so I don’t know how long a label like "neo-new wave" will remotely fit them but for the time being, close enough, given their influences and sound. As such I’d pick them over any of the (credible) bands on that list, even Interpol, whose second disc I could barely get into at all.
I’d agree with Ken the first BSP album is overlong, in its North American version, at least. The 11-track UK version flows much nicer. Their second is toned down a little, nothing quite as immediate as "Remember Me" on it but it’s an absolutely solid follow up. Who else right now could write as thrilling an ode to Antarctic desolation/civilization’s impending oblivion as "Oh Larsen B"? They’re built for the long haul.
|
|
|
|
Post by phil on Oct 28, 2005 7:31:24 GMT -5
I haven't heard one single note from any of those bands !! You think they sound anything like those guys ... ??  Medeski, Martin & Woods ~ Uninvisible  |
|
JACkory
Struggling Artist
Posts: 167
|
Post by JACkory on Oct 28, 2005 9:00:11 GMT -5
M83 is the wave of the future. I've been right before. I'm probably right about this, too. But all those bands in the above list...couldn't cast a vote for any of 'em, cuz they're all so weak.  M83 Before the Dawn Heals Us M83 Dead Cities, Red Seas and Lost Ghosts M83 M83Medeski Martin & Wood are classified as JAZZ. I don't think many folks would find much in common between MMW & the bands to be voted on. |
|
|
|
Post by skvorisdeadsorta on Oct 28, 2005 9:58:05 GMT -5
It's about time, JAC!!!!
|
|
|
|
Post by skvorisdeadsorta on Oct 28, 2005 10:20:22 GMT -5
I like the Killers and I think with them working with Flood and Alan Moulder for the new record shows some promise. I think they have every potential to be a really good band. Not great, but definitely better than a lot of things that are on major labels these days.
Interpol is a great band and will definitely have a much better third record, though I would hardly call the second one bad. I would say it's just a little bit more of the same with a tightening of their sound and not much of a growth though.
Franz Ferdinand I think are actually really smart and their popularity doesn't really bother me. Depeche Mode and The Cure were selling out stadiums in the 80s and I don't think it took away from their records. The new Franz Ferdinand record is surprisingly great, which I think shocked alot of people. I think they will do well in this decade.
Bloc Party is boring.
I like Editors actually and I couldn't tell you why. I should be categorically opposed to them, but they have some really great songs and a few songs on their record remind me more of early OMD more than Interpol.
Kaiser Chiefs are terrible. Bloody awful.
Hot Hot Heat is just so so and it's nothing that I would really buy.
The Bravery are quite possibly the worst of the bunch.
Here's the real deal: I think that Les Savy Fav has more to do with the blowing up of this and were doing it WAY before it was cool. So my vote would have to go with them. They have a sound that blows everyone away.
There are also other records from bands that do the post punk sound better that I think are much greater. The first Liars record is phenomenal and they have truly gone in a direction that I love. They seem to have the post punk spirit of PIL and Neubauten by challenging their audience and changing when they want to without it being bad. The Futureheads I think are an incredible band that really, in my opinion, blow most bands that are coming out of the UK out of the water. Their debut record is fantastic. The first Yeah Yeah Yeahs EP is also a great record as well and though their debut was sort of a misstep, I'm very curious about their new record that is coming out.
Early new wave bands that I find better than the Cure and New Order, though I do love love The Cure and New Order.
1. Tuxedomoon
2. The Minny Pops
3. Early OMD
4. Gina X Performance
5. Malaria
6. Metal Boys/Metal Urbain
7. Einstrenzende Neubauten
8. Orange Juice
9. James Chance
10. Liquid Liquid
12. Teenage Jesus and the Jerks
13. The Pop Group
14. The Stranglers
15. PIL
That's really just off the top of my head too.
|
|
|
|
Post by skvorisdeadsorta on Oct 28, 2005 10:26:33 GMT -5
Also The Rapture's "Echos" is a much better record than the majority of the newer bands mentioned.
|
|
JACkory
Struggling Artist
Posts: 167
|
Post by JACkory on Oct 28, 2005 16:33:18 GMT -5
Well, I never claimed to be on the "cutting edge", just that I'm probably right about M83 making some waves soon.  What do you think of the new Sun Kil Moon, skvor? I like it after the first 5 hearings, and I think it will insinuate itself into that hallowed space reserved for all of Kozelek's work, but for now I'm just SO disappointed that it's all Modest Mouse reconstructions with NO original songs whatsoever. And it's bleedin' SHORT, too (30:35 altogether)... Still, I reccomend it. |
|
|
|
Post by skvorisdeadsorta on Oct 28, 2005 17:04:56 GMT -5
Eh.....I'm indifferent to it because I have issues with people covering Modest Mouse. Modest Mouse was/is a very important band to me and it's just one of those things. I love Kozelek's work so much but this was just a reaction of "whatever" for me right now. I might change my mind though, it's been known to happen, but for now, it's just going to have to be a kind of glum response.
|
|
|
|
Post by rockysigman on Oct 28, 2005 17:07:49 GMT -5
I vote for Thunderbirds Are Now!
|
|
|
|
Post by luke on Oct 28, 2005 17:26:29 GMT -5
Kozelek really brings a new tempo to the songs. I don't like any of them as much as the originals, obviously, but I like how Kozelek brought out stuff that was already in there, but overshadowed by other, more dominant vibes. I like this one better than the AC/DC one, because with those songs, while Kozelek was "turning them into his own", they were still a bunch of AC/DC songs. With this, instead of trying to "make them his own," Kozelek is trying harder to bring forward stuff that was already there, but that you might now have noticed.
And on what Skvor said, I view Franz Ferdinand as a Cure or Depeche Mode, whereas The Killers are taking more of a Duran Duran spot.
As for live shows, Franz still blows every band that's come out this decade out of the water. No doubt about it. A real presence that you can't fake.
|
|
achn2b
Struggling Artist
Posts: 234
|
Post by achn2b on Oct 28, 2005 18:42:39 GMT -5
i'll go with the Killers. wasn't a huge fan of their first single, but the more songs that i heard the more they grew on me. franz ferdinand, from what i've heard is just crap, right alongside modest mouse for me. i just can't see the attraction. quirky, but hookless songs, sound like something hacked out by people without any talent or ounce of songwriting skills. god, the bravery is horrible.
|
|
|
|
Post by skvorisdeadsorta on Oct 28, 2005 19:35:17 GMT -5
What I want to know is, who's fucking bright idea was it for The Bravery to open up for Depeche Mode on their new tour?
This is where the kid that listened to the Dead Milkmen in me, which never really went away, says "Screw You Depeche Commode!!!"
Fuck yeah, Rocky! The Thunderbirds Are Now! are definitely one of the best bands around ever.
|
|
|
|
Post by skvorisdeadsorta on Oct 28, 2005 19:38:11 GMT -5
Actually that just gave me an idea: I must start a band now called "Fuck Yeah, Rocky!"
|
|
|
|
Post by skvorisdeadsorta on Oct 28, 2005 19:40:33 GMT -5
Other good bands in the "new wave" sound:
VHS or Beta
The Faint
Q and not U
Supersystem/El Guapo
Rah Brahs
Sons and Daughters
I'll take the worst songs of these guys over the motherfucking fucking fuckstick fucker fuckshit like The Bravery or Kaiser Chiefs.
|
|
