JACkory
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Post by JACkory on Feb 2, 2006 20:08:34 GMT -5
Besides, XTC had an album called Murmer.  |
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Post by JACkory on Feb 2, 2006 20:10:02 GMT -5
Ken, I don't own the album but I think it's spelled Murm ur.  Normally I don't correct spelling, but hey, weren't you the one who 'corrected' someone's apostrophe in 'Life 's Rich Pageant'? btw, how could you notice such a thing? Shouldn't that be the correct spelling to begin with? I don't get it... You're right of course, that's how it appears on the album, I just find it odd that you would pick up on such a minor detail. Ken's not the only one who noticed it...lots of people picked up on that when it first came out. |
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Post by achn2b on Feb 2, 2006 20:10:06 GMT -5
actually, it was Mummer
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Post by Kensterberg on Feb 2, 2006 20:17:24 GMT -5
See, I was somehow putting Murmur together with XTC's Mummer, which came out the next year, I think. My bad ... I don't make a lot of typos, so I don't mind being corrected on occassion. If that's the worst thing folks can say about my posts, then I'm not doing too bad a job. My alternate excuse is, quite simply, that's how we spell it here in Texas! Oh yeah, Lifes Rich Pageant ... I've always loved the fact that there's no apostrophe ... and it's my job to notice little details like that. BTW, Mikey Mills singing "Superman" is my absolute favorite moment on that LP, and one of my favorite covers, or R.E.M. performances. |
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Post by kool on Feb 2, 2006 20:21:04 GMT -5
Ken's not the only one who noticed it...lots of people picked up on that when it first came out. I suppose they did it on purpose so people would talk about it [even 20+ years later]. Just like the screwed up tracklist on that album. |
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Post by achn2b on Feb 2, 2006 20:30:29 GMT -5
i like Out of Time, although there are a couple real clinkers on it. never did care for Losing My Religion, but love Shiny Happy People, if only for how ravishing Kate looked in the video. but love her vocals on it, just as i did when she sang on Iggy's "Candy".
my two fave tracks on it though are Near Wild Heaven, and Belong.
Document is a great album, but for me it's the beginning of the downfall of REM. as ken mentioned, Murmur sounded like nothing else before it, and if the ones after didn't quite capture that sound, REM still had their own distinctive sound. But Document was the album where some of the idiosyncracies, the stlistic quirks that made up the REM sound began to get polished away a little bit; bigger production sound, less of Peter Buck's arpeggiated Rickenbacker guitar parts, lost some of the airiness and openness that characterized the REM sound. moved towards a more mainstream, commercial sound.
i'm not saying it was bad, or a wrong direction to take, but it's the album that signifies the change for me, and while they were still great, they just weren't the same. and they kept that up with Green.
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Post by achn2b on Feb 2, 2006 20:31:43 GMT -5
i thought Murmur is the proper spelling?
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Post by kool on Feb 2, 2006 20:35:48 GMT -5
Murmur is the proper spelling.
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Post by Kensterberg on Feb 2, 2006 20:40:39 GMT -5
i like Out of Time, although there are a couple real clinkers on it. never did care for Losing My Religion, but love Shiny Happy People, if only for how ravishing Kate looked in the video. but love her vocals on it, just as i did when she sang on Iggy's "Candy". my two fave tracks on it though are Near Wild Heaven, and Belong. Document is a great album, but for me it's the beginning of the downfall of REM. as ken mentioned, Murmur sounded like nothing else before it, and if the ones after didn't quite capture that sound, REM still had their own distinctive sound. But Document was the album where some of the idiosyncracies, the stlistic quirks that made up the REM sound began to get polished away a little bit; bigger production sound, less of Peter Buck's arpeggiated Rickenbacker guitar parts, lost some of the airiness and openness that characterized the REM sound. moved towards a more mainstream, commercial sound. i'm not saying it was bad, or a wrong direction to take, but it's the album that signifies the change for me, and while they were still great, they just weren't the same. and they kept that up with Green. It was actually Lifes Rich Pageant that had that effect on me. The big guitars were about as far away from the jagged sound of Fables as I could imagine. The only songs on LRP that grabbed me right away were the ones that sounded a bit more like older R.E.M., though I quickly came to love the whole damn thing. Document didn't resonate with me for at least a year, for the same reason. By the time Green came out, I was used to that particular sound and so embraced it right away. Plus, tracks like World Leader Pretend and The Wrong Child, plus the gorgeous You Are the Everything, seemed tailor made for longer term fans. And when Out of Time came out, I was absolutely nuts about it. I still don't think there's an awful track on it (yes, I even like Shiny Happy People!), and Half a World Away is another track that rates high on my all-time R.E.M. hit-list. |
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Post by kool on Feb 2, 2006 20:40:53 GMT -5
Yes, I loved the Iggy-Kate duet too. I have the cassingle. Remember those? What a horrible name for a format... why not just call it the 'cassette-single'? The b-side was an acoustic version of "Pussy Power"... which was nowhere near as good as the album version which rocked.
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Post by kool on Feb 2, 2006 20:45:36 GMT -5
"You Are The Everything" is indeed a masterpiece. I loved Green. "Turn You Inside Out" and "Orange Crush" are my other 2 faves from that album. Always hated "Stand" though.
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Post by achn2b on Feb 2, 2006 21:39:19 GMT -5
i loved Lifes Rich Pageant, i thought it was the first album that actually captured Bill Berry's live drum sound in the studio. and i was still just so into anything that REM released that it immediately struck home with me, and i played it constantly.
the same with Document and Green; they may have lost a little of the individualistic sound that separated them from all the other bands out there, but they were still great albums. But Out of Time was the last REM album that i just had to buy as soon as it came out, the last one that i loved unconditionally. after that it was, "yeah, it's ok, but it just doesn't grab me like they used to".
kinda the same feeling i had with U2 after Joshua Tree. i know Achtung Baby is regarded as a classic, but to me, there's just too much weak there that it doesn't grab me like their earlier stuff. the beginning of the end of U2 for me.
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Post by achn2b on Feb 2, 2006 21:43:14 GMT -5
jeesh, i just might have to go on an REM listening kick here.
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Post by wayved on Feb 2, 2006 22:07:55 GMT -5
I voted for Green. the first REM album I heard. It was the gateway drug into all sorts of other music. Before Green, it was all Led Zeppelin and Moody Blues etc..... It may not be the best REM album but damn! Its got "You Are the Everything" on it....Imagine my surprise when I heard Murmur for the first time. I taped it off the radio, actually---I asked for it for Christmas (I was like 15 at the time) and didnt get it--my parents thought they were horrible.
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Post by bowiglou on Feb 3, 2006 1:54:36 GMT -5
Green was the first REM album (except for World Leader Pretend) that I thought REM was starting to take a mild misstep
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