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Post by melon1 on Mar 11, 2006 14:08:55 GMT -5
Oh, Melon, btw, I have given your disc a few more spins. Digging much of it, but especially the Dinosaur Jr. tracks. I need to explore them a little deeper. Great stuff.
Check out You're Living All Over Me(especially if you like the "fuzz" stuff) and Green Mind, Rocky. Two of my top 20 ever.
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Post by melon1 on Mar 11, 2006 14:13:56 GMT -5
Some people dont live by the Fox News network or the 700 Club or any type of media hype at all. To live and die by television? By some other mortal man's belief?
Um, where did that come from, Glenn? That's written to me?
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Post by melon1 on Mar 11, 2006 14:19:58 GMT -5
Damn! I gotta go again. I'll get to shin and Mary and whoever else, soon.
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Post by melon1 on Mar 11, 2006 15:22:49 GMT -5
Hey Melon, want to make out? Surely, Riley! I pm'd you my phone #, sweetie. 
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Post by melon1 on Mar 11, 2006 15:25:26 GMT -5
shin asked,
Melon, if abortion is criminalized, what should the punishment be for a woman who gets one?
IMO, she should be punished by law ONLY if she uses a professional procedure and not a coathanger. Should she use a coathanger, that would be punishment enough, of course. But that, importantly, would show abortion as what it really is: the bloody taking of a human soul.
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Post by melon1 on Mar 11, 2006 17:40:22 GMT -5
Introducing:
A Very Clever Cop
Police aren't perfect, but this cop comes close to winning the ingenuity
award. A driver did the right thing, stopping at the crosswalk even
though he could have beaten the red light by accelerating through the intersection.
The tailgating woman behind him went ballistic, pounding on her horn and
screaming in frustration as she missed her chance to drive through the
intersection with him. Still in mid-rant, she heard a tap on her window and looked up
into the face of a very serious police officer.
The officer ordered her to exit her car with her hands up. He took her to
the police station where she was searched, fingerprinted, photographed
and placed in a cell. After a couple of hours, a policeman approached the
cell and opened the door. She was escorted back to the booking desk where the
arresting officer was waiting with her personal effects.
He said, "I'm awfully sorry for this mistake. You see, I pulled up behind
your car while you were blowing your horn, flipping the guy off in front
of you, and cussing a blue streak at him. I noticed the "Choose Life"
licenseplate holder, the "What Would Jesus Do?" bumper sticker, the
"Follow me to Sunday School" bumper sticker and the chrome plated
Christian fish emblem on the trunk.
Naturally, I assumed you had stolen the car.
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Post by chrisfan on Mar 11, 2006 17:45:02 GMT -5
shin asked, Melon, if abortion is criminalized, what should the punishment be for a woman who gets one? IMO, she should be punished by law ONLY if she uses a professional procedure and not a coathanger. Should she use a coathanger, that would be punishment enough, of course. But that, importantly, would show abortion as what it really is: the bloody taking of a human soul. Wouldn't such a policy encourage abortions by coathanger? "Risk more physical harm and trauma to yourself, and go free! Seek a doctor's help and go to jail" Sounds twisted to me. Any law that has the unintended consequence of making it more desirable to risk permanently maiming yourself or killing yourself is a fucked up law. |
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Post by Kensterberg on Mar 11, 2006 17:45:20 GMT -5
That was actually quite funny!  Um, I meant Melon's cop post, not Chrisfan's thoughtful response to Melon's proposed abortion punishment. |
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Post by Kensterberg on Mar 11, 2006 17:46:06 GMT -5
shin asked, Melon, if abortion is criminalized, what should the punishment be for a woman who gets one? IMO, she should be punished by law ONLY if she uses a professional procedure and not a coathanger. Should she use a coathanger, that would be punishment enough, of course. But that, importantly, would show abortion as what it really is: the bloody taking of a human soul. Wouldn't such a policy encourage abortions by coathanger? "Risk more physical harm and trauma to yourself, and go free! Seek a doctor's help and go to jail" Sounds twisted to me. Any law that has the unintended consequence of making it more desirable to risk permanently maiming yourself or killing yourself is a fucked up law. Well said Chrisfan. |
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Post by melon1 on Mar 11, 2006 17:54:24 GMT -5
Good point, CF. Both should be equally punishable, I suppose.
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Post by melon1 on Mar 11, 2006 17:57:22 GMT -5
And furthermore, if she did harm herself (and wasn't raped, of course) why should we feel guilty because she harmed herself? She did it to herself, correct? Don't want a child? Don't get pregnant. If you do, you're going to have to have the baby. It's been like that for the whole history of the world until a little more than 3 decades ago. You know, the early seventies, the stone ages.
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Post by Kensterberg on Mar 11, 2006 18:08:11 GMT -5
And furthermore, if she did harm herself (and wasn't raped, of course) why should we feel guilty because she harmed herself? She did it to herself, correct? Don't want a child? Don't get pregnant. If you do, you're going to have to have the baby. It's been like that for the whole history of the world until a little more than 3 decades ago. You know, the early seventies, the stone ages. This is nowhere near accurate. Surgical abortions have been around for the better part of the twentieth century, and even hunter-gatherer cultures have compounds or other substances that they use to try to initiate a miscarriage ... which is effectively the same as an abortion. Abortion laws in the US date back to at least 1820, and you don't think to outlaw something that doesn't exist. Here's a link to a brief history of abortion in the US ... womenshistory.about.com/od/abortionuslegal/a/abortion.htmThomas Aquinas had opinions on abortion ... and I believe that the practice was known in both the Greek and Roman world. So it's been around a whole lot longer than the last thirtysome years. |
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Post by shin on Mar 11, 2006 18:31:06 GMT -5
I need a sentence length, Melon. And does the death penalty apply?
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Post by wayved on Mar 11, 2006 23:37:12 GMT -5
To be honest, in an ideal world, people would not feel the need to kill their children before they were born for convieniences sake. "I have lunch at 11"
But If I were a woman and if I were raped and impregnated off to the clinic I go. Im not a woman so I dont know what its like--I am personally against abortion if its just because of irresponsibility--that its gonna cramp your style or what have you. I hate that frame of mind. I know people like that--Oh shit--Im pregnant--9 o clock appointment!
Im not "pro life" in the bumper sticker sense but I am glad I am alive. My father could have had a talk with me mum--"get rid of him--we are too young and too poor" AND THEY WERE YOUNG AND POOR! I should have been out of there!--and maybe some sick fucks on this board would think i would be better off. But man! I like being alive.
I do believe it is a womans choice--of course it is. Both sides are scary cos they have nothing else to fight about, apparently. No one has the right to burn a clinic or harm another just because of his or her views. Fuck left or right...this is an issue that will never be resolved.
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Post by shin on Mar 12, 2006 11:28:22 GMT -5
To be honest, in an ideal world, people would not feel the need to kill their children before they were born for convieniences sake. "I have lunch at 11" But If I were a woman and if I were raped and impregnated off to the clinic I go. Im not a woman so I dont know what its like--I am personally against abortion if its just because of irresponsibility--that its gonna cramp your style or what have you. I hate that frame of mind. I know people like that--Oh shit--Im pregnant--9 o clock appointment! Um, yeah. |
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