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Post by skvorisdeadsorta on Mar 29, 2006 17:18:52 GMT -5
Built to Spill are good. Not as good, and not as consistent, but they'll work over a MM fix. Check out the latest one. Completely agreed on Life Like Weeds. I don't know, sometimes I wonder if Modest Mouse has released anything that comes close to the majesty of "Keep It Like A Secret". Man, that record is smoking from beginning to end. |
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Post by Rit on Mar 29, 2006 17:23:44 GMT -5
debatable. there are one or two unimpressive tunes on there.
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Post by Galactus on Mar 29, 2006 18:46:16 GMT -5
IMO Built To Spill kicks the shit out of Modest Mouse...but that's just my opinion...
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Post by Galactus on Mar 29, 2006 18:47:13 GMT -5
MM Haven't done anything as good as There's Nothing Wrong With Love...not even close.
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Post by Galactus on Mar 29, 2006 18:47:40 GMT -5
...Or Perfect From Now On for that matter...
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Post by Fuzznuts on Mar 29, 2006 20:52:48 GMT -5
word.
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Post by sisyphus on Mar 30, 2006 2:25:15 GMT -5
let's not leave Uggly Cassanova out of the picture....
PACIFICO
they said they'd give me everything,
here's the part that made me laugh.
they didn't give me anything
and then they took half of that.
so sharpen your teeth or lay flat!
you said you'd play clean, oh what a load of crap,
by the time that you were through with me
i had to take a bath
so sharpen your teeth or lay flat!
they said that it'd go good for me,
rain diamonds and all that.
i stood out in the downpour
getting hit by broken glass.
so sharpen your teeth or lay flat.
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Post by sisyphus on Mar 30, 2006 2:44:39 GMT -5
anyone heard sun kil moon's modest mouse covers? his homage is definitely an interesting contrast to modest mouse's approach. it's like this: modest mouse's lyrics are highly intelligent without being pretentious.... the colloquialisms and slacker-skewed vernacular in the lyrics, in conjunction with the way in which they're sung, serves to make them the antithesis of pretentiousness as far as i'm concerned... yet they're effing brilliant! transcendent! they're calculated to appear innocently uncalculated, and they're still so damn poetic! does this make sense to anyone?
now, moving on to the music itself... it's brilliant...creative...unique....clever....and highly catchy.... both aspects make an amazing band, but i think it's unfortunate when the teenie boppers don't pay attention to the lyrics for the music... (i guess that will come...i guess they will later...at least i hope so...) this is why i'm glad mark kozelek takes a more medatative approach with their lyrics......go sun kill moon!!!
I'm the same as I was when I was 6 years old
And oh my God I feel so damn old
I don't really feel anything
On a plane, I can see the tiny lights below
And oh my God, they look so alone
Do they really feel anything?
Oh my God, I've gotta gotta gotta gotta move on
Where do you move when what you're moving from
Is yourself?
The universe works on a math equation
that never even ever really ends in the end
Infinity spirals out creation
We're on the tip of its tongue, and it is saying
We aint sure where you stand
You aint machines and you aint land
And the plants and the animals, they are linked
And the plants and the animals eat each other
Oh my God and oh my cat
I told my Dad what I need
Well I know what I have and want
But I don't know what I need
Well, he said he said he said he said
"Where we're going I'm dead."
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Post by sisyphus on Mar 30, 2006 2:52:43 GMT -5
Mark Kozelek performs another act of musical alchemy with "Tiny Cities," which reimagines the pop tunes of Modest Mouse's Isaac Brock as deeply inward, poignant evocations of love and grief, along with a kind of soulful endurance. This isn't the first time Kozelek has found a gold thread worth saving and woven a whole coat out of it -- his solo album "What's Next to the Moon" performed a similar act of poetic transubstantiation on the songs of AC/DC. Frankly, after listening to Kozelek's haunted version of the title track, hearing Modest Mouse's rendition is nearly painful. (Sorry, MM fans.)
Kozelek deserves credit for hearing the authentic poetry in Brock's associative lyrics, but the musical atmosphere on this record is wholly his own. Using a spare palette of acoustic and electric guitars with occasional -- and exquisitely tasteful -- strings (a la Beck's "Sea Change," which comes close to the mood of this album), Kozelek creates a unified statement that stands with his very best work, including the previous Sun Kil Moon album "Ghosts of the Great Highway," his solo project "Rock and Roll Singer," and great Red House Painters albums like "Ocean Beach" and "Songs for a Blue Guitar." This album also hangs together better than "Ghosts," which was so bursting with new ideas that tracks like "Duk Koo Kim" and "Gentle Moon" almost seemed to belong on different albums. "Tiny Cities," on the other hand, is sequenced so effectively that from the first moments of "Exit Does Not Exist" -- with its glittering harmonics -- the reader is drawn on a journey to an underworld in which every song seems to deepen the mood and intensity of the last.
There's world-weariness and melancholy in Kozelek's voice, but sadness this distilled and many-layered attains a kind of ecstasy of its own. His voice also has a confidence and subtlety here that shows a steady maturation from his previous work: he has fully arrived in the place he set out for after leaving behind the somewhat precious vocal affectations of his early Red House Painters material, as lovely as those albums were. The title track also performs the neat trick of seeming like the perfect song for our shadowy, apocalyptic time: "We're going down the road to tiny cities made of ashes..." Kozelek's revisioning of it sounds like a 21st century Nick Drake facing the end of the world with wit and an insistence that creating timeless beauty is the best revenge. Like the best of Kozelek's work, this album only seems more carefully constructed and deep with repeated listening. It's hard not to play it over and over.
Kozelek is one of the most original and underappreciated musicians working these days, and this is not only one of the best albums of the year, it's one of the handful of albums from our time that will still sound fresh and wise 30 years from now.
Stephen Silberman "writer, Wired Magazine" (SF, CA USA)
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Post by JesusLooksLikeMe on Mar 30, 2006 4:05:06 GMT -5
Tiny Cities is the one cover on that album I'd take over the Modest Mouse version. While I'm a huge RHP fan, I'm not convinced by Kozelek's covers projects. These are really in large part his own songs and melodies, just using Brock's lyrics... but I just don't think musically he's coming up with anything to match the stuff on the classic Rollercoaster or the better parts of, say, Old Ramon.
Plus Brock's weird, metaphysical mumblings just work on some instinctive, genuine, idiot savant level, whereas Kozelek by contrast sounds simply slightly depressed, fey and pretentious. He's such a brilliant lyricist in his own right (Grace Cathedral Park? It doesn't get much better than that) but assuming Brock's voice doesn't work for him, imo.
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Post by JesusLooksLikeMe on Mar 30, 2006 4:07:34 GMT -5
I'm definitely going to check Built to Spill now; I'm hearing a lot of praise for them on this thread.
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Post by JesusLooksLikeMe on Mar 30, 2006 4:10:32 GMT -5
As for Ugly Casanova - agreed, that album is actually pretty good. There's a few misses on there (Parasites, Bee Sting) but overall it wouldn't disgrace the MM catalogue at all. Though I miss Judy's signature bass sound, you have Pall Jenkins and his moog along for the trip (one or two of the songs near the end sound like some slightly improved version of BHP).
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Post by frag on Mar 30, 2006 4:18:15 GMT -5
What about the RHP cover of Silly Love Songs?
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Post by sisyphus on Mar 30, 2006 4:26:30 GMT -5
Plus Brock's weird, metaphysical mumblings just work on some instinctive, genuine, idiot savant level... well put...and i can see what you're saying about K's sounding pretentious with his mournful droning of B's lyrics....yet i personally like hearing them in that new light...that moody thantos shit has always appealed to me, and i feel like i'm under water listening to it....yeah....kind of like B's voice distilled below the surface of water becomes K's version... Joseph K's.... jeez, am i high or something? |
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Post by sisyphus on Mar 30, 2006 4:32:00 GMT -5
What about the RHP cover of Silly Love Songs? it's silly. ha haa!!! just kidding. i like it like a like a good licky pop |
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