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Post by KooL on Jun 6, 2007 11:01:32 GMT -5
Chris Cornell's latest album is gayer than Rufus Wainwright's new one.
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Post by Kensterberg on Jun 6, 2007 11:05:11 GMT -5
Chris Cornell's latest album is gayer than Rufus Wainwright's new one. OK, this is now in serious contention for POTD. That's the kind of short succinct cutting comments that I can stick up at POTD with pride. Still haven't found anything suitable for the awardee, though, so you'll have to take the complete Rush discography (assuming that Bow doesn't decide he needs it instead). ;D |
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Post by KooL on Jun 6, 2007 11:14:13 GMT -5
Funny thing is, I'm being totally serious here. Wainwright's album has a handful of classics on it [with some crap thrown in too]. The best song on Cornell's album is written by Michael Jackson. Need I say more?
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Post by maarts on Jun 6, 2007 17:03:49 GMT -5
And that makes it gay?
It just makes it more crap.
The Rufus-album is just more of the same for mine.
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Post by KooL on Jun 6, 2007 17:13:55 GMT -5
And that makes it gay? It just makes it more crap. lol. That too.  |
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Post by Ayinger on Jun 6, 2007 18:33:01 GMT -5
I'm just wary of the dude....... Circle Of Snakes had some decent tracks but I just miss the old band w/John Christ, et al. The older stuff promised on this new release at least will be interesting I'm sure. They guy is ridiculous and his last few releases have not been all that great. In fact they've been pretty flat and some of the lyrics are just hilarious. The only reason why I am so excited is because it has a lot of stuff with John Christ. I know the dude won't do a Misfits reunion (thank god! I'm very happy about that actually) but it would be cool if he got John Christ, Eerie Von, and Chuck Biscuits (man, the names on this old punkers! ) back in the fold. I'd like to hear another record with that line up. I still jam "How The Gods Kill" alot. fuckinAright! Have you ever heard John Christ's solo album, Flesh Caffeine? Came out in '99 -- I got it through his website (he wrote me a nice lil' note and tossed in a guitar pick!) -- Somewhat more melodic than the stuff with Glenn but of course he's got some rippin' leads going on a number of tunes. |
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Post by Kensterberg on Jun 6, 2007 20:28:35 GMT -5
OK Ken, screw Macca, just put on that Crowded House album. If you find it every bit as enjoyable as any of their past albums, then yes, I am on crack. ftr, I don't think it's an awful record, up until track 7 it's an interesting listen, with a few spurts of genius. It's the ballad heavy second half of the record that puts me right to sleep. Still, musicianship and production are excellent... but melodies?? Hmmm.... a few. No Temple Of Men or Woodface here. "She Called Up" is probably the only song you'll remember after the first spin, even though there are a few songs better than that one. It's just that it's the song with the most memorable melody. The others require a bit of work... The bottom line is, as far as CH albums go, even the b-side/oddity collection Afterglow kicks Time On Earth's ass. Well, maybe not totally, but just a bit. I wish I was hearing the same album Drum and wayved are hearing, but unfortunately I'm not. No one would have loved to love this record more than myself, but after about 10 spins, I gotta say I'm just not feeling it. OK, after just one listen, I'm a lot closer to Kool on this than to Drum/wayved. The record starts off promisingly enough, but it meanders its way to a close in that balla-heavy second half, and never really takes off. There isn't anything "wrong" with it per se, it just lacks the spark that made earlier CH records so special. And FTR, it didn't strike me as a bad record, it just doesn't measure up to anything that CH had done previously. As Kool noted, even the odds 'n' sods Afterglow is a more compelling listen. This sounds more like a Neil Finn solo record, a fact which is even more apparent if you throw on some vintage Crowded House right after it. In my case, Together Alone and Woodface have been the next two records to come up after I wrapped up Time On Earth, and even if I'd never heard Together Alone before, the distinctive bass work and band interplay on that record make it obvious where TOE ended and TA began. I liked Time On Earth, and some of the more uptempo stuff here was quite good, but I can't imagine adding any of these cuts to a "best of CH" disc. Unlike Tim's solo LP last year, this one came in with high expectations, largely earned b/c in the past Crowded House had never ever let me down. The CH catalog is one of the finest in pop/rock, and while Time On Earth doesn't really tarnish that reputation, it doesn't do anything to advance or enhance it, either. 3 stars. Might go up to 3.5 on further listens, but I rather doubt it. |
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Post by Kensterberg on Jun 6, 2007 20:35:09 GMT -5
And just to make sure there's no confusion, I agree completely with Kool that this is the worst Crowded House album. If it had been a Neil or Finn Bros. album, I'd be a bit more receptive to it: it wouldn't be a better record, but the distance from this to those isn't as great. But as this is "Crowded House" we're talking about, well, they have their own high standard to be held to. And anyone who thinks this is as good as Temple of Low Men, or anything else in the CH catalog, is indeed high on crack. That is all. |
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Post by KooL on Jun 6, 2007 20:49:43 GMT -5
Ken, you rock. Thank you, for a minute there I thought I was losing my hearing abilities..., not to mention my impeccable taste in music. Now we know who the real crack users are around here.  ;D 3 stars would probably be my rating too. Normally, that'd be OK, but for a Crowded House album, it's actually kinda sad. |
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Post by ScottsyII on Jun 6, 2007 22:05:47 GMT -5
Haven't heard te new Crowdies album, but I hold high hopes for it -not sure how they'll sound without a bit of Paul Hester's input -its bound to be good IMO, I loved all of Neil's solo stuff... Kinda reminds me of when my Aussie faves the Go Betweens got back together - it didn't sound or feel the same but over time I began to appreciate the new stuff in the context of the older stuff...
And I always found with both of the Finn Bros. output their music only became more intricate with repeated listens - I may have even written off Temple of Low Men as a bit trite on my first listen, but i sure as hell wouyldn't do that now - I know I nearly took Together Alone to a secondhand store, and I almost hated half of Woodface in initially.... now i couldn't live without any of these three of their albums...
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Post by ScottsyII on Jun 6, 2007 22:07:18 GMT -5
Mytyping sucks tonight, BTW, slightly buzzed on wine and extremely tired after a LONG day... :-)
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Post by wayved on Jun 7, 2007 0:32:44 GMT -5
Kool & Ken--
Sure-its not CROWDED HOUSE, but anyone with a modicum of musical knowledge (ie anyone seeking for the NEW Crowded House album) KNOWS that its not. I dont think anyone here said it was as good as Temple of Low Men of Woodface, but in this day and age where there may be nothing else to get excited about--(Erasure, Kool? Cmon man!) Take what you can get. I am glad the members of "Crowded House" (Im sure the name was used just to stir up interest) are still alive and kicking. Plus alot of us are complaining about an album we did'nt pay for. Next time I go to a record shop who actually CARRIES it im gonna buy it. Those f*&kers are up there in years, and are really only known by a the memories of girls in bathing suits in 1986 and the general public for "Don't Dream Its Over" -- im not talking critics and the like.
Sorry for my rant but its a whole bunch of whining i see here. Throw some crap at Chris Cornell's new one, which Im surprised Rod Stewart didnt guest on. Chris Cornell=Bon Jovi for the 2000s.
Its gonna happen. Where is Kim Thayil?
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Post by wayved on Jun 7, 2007 0:58:14 GMT -5
Im such a gripey stupid bastard.
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Post by KooL on Jun 7, 2007 4:35:58 GMT -5
Yeah, that you are. And FWIW, Chris Cornell's album is gayer than Erasure's too. |
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Post by KooL on Jun 7, 2007 5:03:30 GMT -5
I gotta say, it was wrong of me to compare Crowded House's album to Cornell's. Obviously the CH disc is a better album, and once again Neil has not written a single bad song, it's just that I didn't find anything remarkable about the songs either, except for maybe a few.
Saying that 'there may be nothing else to get excited about these days' is not really an excuse for liking it. Especially when you take into consideration the fact that his older brother was still able to put out an awesome album last year. Neil's still great though, and I'll always be a fan and I'm sure he'll rectify with the next record. Yeah, I know I sound like a demanding little prick here, but it's really Neil's fault for writing so much wonderful music in the past and raising my expectations sky high.
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