|
|
Post by dolly on Mar 18, 2007 11:18:27 GMT -5
Awright, let's work this out. I hope we can sort out a few conceptions/misconceptions here. ..... So what do we all want?..... I didn't set up this board as a new warzone, just as a means of discussion to see what we can learn from each other and clear up any misconceptions about us all. From my viewpoint: I despise the warfare around here. Doesn't matter whatever sets it off. I accused several people on CE once of baiting people on purpose. So is it a set plan or am I wrong? Anyone with me to work this out? I tell you what Maarts, why don't those who have a gripe with one another, who were probably friends once a long time ago, just pretend that that person doesn't exist anymore? Perhaps every now and then they might make a comment in order to betray an allegiance to a self-perceived 'side' so that that person knows that they aren't even on that persons radar anymore? And leaping in and making judgment without even attempting to understand all points of view? Why don't they just do that eh Maarts? Or they could follow your advice - as I'm sure you would, right? Hypocrisy makes me sick. |
|
|
|
Post by dolly on Mar 18, 2007 11:21:03 GMT -5
Indeed dolly. This isn't even Sedaka vs. Rocdoc. There's only a hand full of us who can't play nice together. It's not my fight DED. It never has been. I was an advice lounger back in the day. I'm on both boards (though wasn't on Sedaka for a long time). I consider myself sideless and I see self delusion all around. And I mean all around. But.... it's not my fight. |
|
|
|
Post by Kensterberg on Mar 18, 2007 11:22:18 GMT -5
Sorry, I didn't read where PEW has been "silenced" until after I posted that response. I'm gonna leave it up anyway.
I post here a lot. I post at Sedaka somewhat less. I don't feel like I have a dog in this fight, whatever this fight is. For me, it comes down to the fact that I've "known" a bunch of people on these boards now for almost nine years now, and I like interacting with them. There are others I've known for a much shorter time who I'm very fond of. There's no one here (or there) I absolutely can't stand. In any event, I'd hate to see either board go away or take a change for the worse. I'd hate to be reduced to going back to the actual RollingStone.com boards (are they back up yet? I haven't checked in ages!), as I'd have to try to find people there half as interesting as folks here and at Sedaka.
Can't we all just get along?
|
|
|
|
Post by Kensterberg on Mar 18, 2007 11:24:15 GMT -5
After reading her last couple of posts, I think I can safely say that I'm on Dolly's side in all this. Whatever side that is -- I guess we'll be the ones having a few drinks while you all slug this out.  |
|
|
|
Post by Galactus on Mar 18, 2007 11:34:54 GMT -5
There are no sides to be on here. At least none established so far. There are things to agree or disagree with but no sides. I'm not sure how else to say it. I'm explaining how it seems to me. That's all. I understand that most people here don't want to get in the middle of whtever this is, I'd sure like to not be in the middle of it.
|
|
|
|
Post by Ryosuke on Mar 18, 2007 11:37:22 GMT -5
What makes it even worse that is, if you guys don't think we're assholes, not one nonsedaka castaway ever stands up for us. I like you as much as I like RocDoc, ded. I wouldn't want you to go away any more than I'd want him to go away. If four or five people jumped on you all at once, I'd stand up for you. Or at least encourage you to not leave, since I'm kind of a wuss like that. But that just doesn't happen, does it? You guys are way more popular here than you give yourselves credit for. |
|
|
|
Post by JesusLooksLikeMe on Mar 18, 2007 11:53:23 GMT -5
This whole rift thing pretty much caused me to leave the boards simply 'cos I don't have time to stay in touch with two forums, and if there's something I want to discuss with 5 people who might be interested, but two of them are at Sedaka and three on Castaways, well fuck it, life's too short. And it's all a bit sad.
To be honest I get a bit annoyed by certain aspects of the Sedaka thing, although don't infer from this statement that I therefore dislike the people over there; most of them seem pretty friendly and funny and although I don't post there anymore there are people over there (Riley, tunes, ded, ndy, rit, tracey etc that are an asset to any community).
But the fact is the threads there can only be read by the Sedaka members and that has an inevitable side-effect given the dynamics between the two communities: shin is a little disingenuous and lacking in self-awareness in his posts on this thread, since I've witnessed years of deliberate and co-ordinated action against people they like to wind up on here and even drive off from Castaways.
The first misjudgement was banning knight from this forum here though, and not affording that group (later to become Sedaka) any respect when this board was first set up, so what can you do?
I find constant bitching and pack mentalities a bit wearing and so I don't regret fucking off, even though there are people like Riley, Skvor, Ryo and luke etc that I would love to chat to about new albums and other people I can talk to about stuff other than music.
If the two forums became one super forum, with enough members to keep the threads varied and active, I'll be back faster than shit off a shovel..
|
|
|
|
Post by Kensterberg on Mar 18, 2007 11:56:29 GMT -5
Wow. This is serious enough to get a Word from Jesus.
Well if reconcilliation would get Son-of-God-boy there to post a bit more often, then maybe it'd be worth it.
|
|
|
|
Post by shin on Mar 18, 2007 12:39:32 GMT -5
JLLM, I've been completely honest about the nature of the Bitch Board since the very start. The one thing I've stressed is that it's a single thread on a single board that doesn't get nearly as much traffic as rumor would have it. But some would have it that it's the sole purpose of the community's existence. At this point I don't know what I can say that will satisfy anyone. But I'm also getting the picture that this is a CE Bitch Board bitching board. Strat says we're on the same page, yet he's taking all the oppurtunities he can to imply I'm a liar. So, whatever. Some people have things on their minds. So air out your laundry, if you have any.
|
|
|
|
Post by Mary on Mar 18, 2007 13:02:15 GMT -5
in the interest of full disclosure: i just joined sedaka a few days ago. as everyone here knows, my attempt to join was initially denied, but after i posted on the pink floyd board asking why i wasn't let in, i was pretty promptly invited to join.
i wanted to join sedaka for a pretty simple reason - there are cool people over there who don't post so much over here anymore, if at all. and the same reason applies why i'll always post over here - because there are cool people over here who don't post much over there, if at all. that's really all there is it to it.
there are elements of sedaka that i'm still uncomfortable with. i don't mind the bitching about people, but i don't like the fact that it's done in secret. shin is totally right and totally fair when he says that there's just ONE bitch board over there and that there are so many other aspects of the community, and it's unfair to reduce it to the bitch board. at the same time it IS disingenuous to defend the bitch board by saying that nobody says anything over there that they wouldn't already say over here. in the case of rocdoc, that seems totally true. but in the case of several other posters, if you're worried that a new poster might get their feelings hurt by reading the archives of the bitch board, then something is obviously a bit off about claiming that all the dirty laundry gets aired over here too. how could anyone get their feelings hurt if the same shit was being talked here?
it seems to me that one quick and easy way to prove there's no real "rift" would be to make all the boards on sedaka public. if there's nothing to hide, don't hide it, yeah?
but it's not my decision, and in the end, it's not worth worrying about either. i like 98% of the people who post on both boards, and i like chatting about movies and music and shoes and cities and all the rest of it, so i'll just go wherever i need to go to do that.
|
|
|
|
Post by riley on Mar 18, 2007 13:13:11 GMT -5
I wasn't aware that as a rule, shit was prone to moving from a shovel so quickly.
If I wasn't so busy with work I would be here more, and these little tid-bits would be less surprising to me.
If JLLM was here more, he could tell me more about poop and its tendancies.
|
|
|
|
Post by strawman on Mar 18, 2007 13:13:24 GMT -5
it all reminds me just a little too much of Monty Pythons architect sketch.......
|
|
|
|
Post by samplestiltskin on Mar 18, 2007 13:26:53 GMT -5
 somewhere along the line it was decided samples would not enter the kingdom of light. but i'm not crying. it could be worse. i could be rockdoc. |
|
|
|
Post by dolly on Mar 18, 2007 13:32:31 GMT -5
After reading her last couple of posts, I think I can safely say that I'm on Dolly's side in all this. Whatever side that is -- I guess we'll be the ones having a few drinks while you all slug this out. I'll drink to that. Salut! |
|
|
|
Post by tuneschick on Mar 18, 2007 13:42:02 GMT -5
This is what it takes to get Jesus back? I'll have you know I haven't listened to Simon 'n' Garfunkel or read Christopher Brookmyre since you left. Consider it a protest of your absence. 
|
|
