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Post by Fuzznuts on Jun 19, 2006 13:56:59 GMT -5
Dude, ix-nay on the etarded-ray.
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Post by rockysigman on Jun 19, 2006 13:58:26 GMT -5
Seriously. No one here is retarded.
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Post by shin on Jun 19, 2006 14:20:42 GMT -5
I think if Wade had the sort of pathological hypercompetativeness that bordered on psychosis, he could probably be better than Jordan. He's certainly got similar game. But I remembere when Harold Miner was called "Baby Jordan", so let's take this one step at a time.
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Post by Fuzznuts on Jun 19, 2006 14:21:42 GMT -5
And wasn't Joe Dumars touted as some sort of "Jordan-killer?"
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Post by kmc on Jun 19, 2006 14:24:38 GMT -5
Yeah, but pathological hypercompetitiveness is what made Jordan Jordan. I mean, Wade has a LONG way to go. Shit, Jordan was great defensively and offensively. Dude was just great all-around. I am not saying Wade can't get there, but to even put the two in the same sentence is silly at this point. I bet to differ. Look at this: Big Win for the Heat last night! Wade is better than Jordan--there I said it. Actually he's just as good as Jordan, but a much better PERSON than Joradan could ever dream of being. So in my mind that makes him better. He's also a million times better than Kobe. With that said, Dallas should win game 6, which will mean it all comes down to game 7 in Dallas. That will be a game that could really define Wade as one of the all-time Greats. |
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Post by NdY on Jun 19, 2006 14:26:52 GMT -5
Wade isn't half the defender Jordan was and doesn't have nearly the same shooting ability. Granted, Jordan's jumper didn't really blossom until later in his career, but even early on he would take and hit the long shot... something Wade doesn't do. Just check out his 3pt stats.
Also, as (I think) was stated above, Jordan didn't have anywhere near the same supporting cast early in his career has Wade has now.
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Post by rockysigman on Jun 19, 2006 14:32:21 GMT -5
Yeah, but pathological hypercompetitiveness is what made Jordan Jordan. I mean, Wade has a LONG way to go. Shit, Jordan was great defensively and offensively. Dude was just great all-around. I am not saying Wade can't get there, but to even put the two in the same sentence is silly at this point. I bet to differ. Look at this: Big Win for the Heat last night! Wade is better than Jordan--there I said it. Actually he's just as good as Jordan, but a much better PERSON than Joradan could ever dream of being. So in my mind that makes him better. He's also a million times better than Kobe. With that said, Dallas should win game 6, which will mean it all comes down to game 7 in Dallas. That will be a game that could really define Wade as one of the all-time Greats. Maybe you're right. Has the RS.com Castaways retard barrier been broken? Quite a stride for retard rights everywhere. |
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Post by rockysigman on Jun 19, 2006 14:33:00 GMT -5
Also, as (I think) was stated above, Jordan didn't have anywhere near the same supporting cast early in his career has Wade has now. This cannot be emphasized enough. Wade is great, but I'm not really going to believe until I can see what he can do without Shaquille O'Neal out there to distract 4 defenders. |
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Post by shin on Jun 19, 2006 14:43:39 GMT -5
Wade's a great defender and he was hitting crazy ass jumpers all last night from about 20 feet on. He can hit the three but not enough to bother taking a lot of. And THAT'S what's so great about him, he's not forcing anything.
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Post by shin on Jun 19, 2006 14:44:54 GMT -5
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Post by NdY on Jun 19, 2006 14:48:08 GMT -5
Also, just so we're clear:
Jordan's '87 Chicago Bulls
Michael Jordan
Charles Oakley
John Paxson
Dave Corzine
Brad Sellers
Gene Banks
Sedale Threatt
Earl Cureton
Mike Brown
Elston Turner
Steve Colter
Granville Waiters
Pete Myers
Ben Poquette
Perry Young
Fred Cofield
Darren Daye
His true second season ('85-'86) in the league was decimated by a broken foot. The next two seasons Jordan averaged -
86/7 ... 37.1 ppg on 48%, 5 rpg, 4.5 apg, 3 spg, 1.5 bpg, 3 topg
87/8 ... 35.0 ppg on 54%, 5.5 rpg, 6 apg, 3 spg, 1.5 bpg 3 topg
Looking back at the stats I will admit that I was wrong about his long range threat, though. He had surprisingly similar stats from behind the arc as Wade has had.
But damn, just look at those numbers with that team.
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Post by shin on Jun 19, 2006 14:48:31 GMT -5
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Post by Galactus on Jun 19, 2006 14:51:07 GMT -5
Attention: a complete retard scan has been enacted. I may need to question each of you individually, it is not an indication of suspicion, it is standard proceeder. Go about your normal activties, our observation will not be intrusive.
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Post by shin on Jun 19, 2006 14:52:42 GMT -5
Jordan's two seasons there, he took about as many shots per game as Kobe Bryant did this year. Everything shooting wise about them is almost exactly the same.
I would say Kobe had a better supporting cast but not by much. So you could make the case than Jordan was a pretty wreckless player back in the day and that Wade is a bit above the curve at this stage in his career.
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Post by NdY on Jun 19, 2006 14:53:12 GMT -5
Wade's a great defender and he was hitting crazy ass jumpers all last night from about 20 feet on. He can hit the three but not enough to bother taking a lot of. And THAT'S what's so great about him, he's not forcing anything. He's a good defender. MJ won Defensive Player of the Year in 1988. Wade shot under 20% from beyond the arc this year. |
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