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Post by phil on Aug 25, 2004 7:33:53 GMT -5
A "healty" relationship should be more about sharing a common goal in life than a need to care about one another ...
IMHO of course ...
Top Ten Favorite foods :
1) Chicken Club Sandwich (2 slices of bread) 2) Smoked Salmon/capres/onions/cream cheese bagel 3) Shrimps/lemongrass Thai soup 4) Indian Lamb curry 5) Indian Chicken Tikka 6) Chili con Carne (3 Alarms !) 7) Fresh Tomatoes/Mozza-Parmesan cheese/fresh Basil Virgin Olive Oil Pizza 8) Roasted Sweet Peppers/Mushrooms/Fresh Italian Parsley/Garlic/Olive Oil Pastas 9) Any Spanish "Tapas" 10) Any Chineese "Dim Sums"
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Post by JesusLooksLikeMe on Aug 25, 2004 7:34:31 GMT -5
Sorry Maarts, forgot to respond to that one. I haven't. You think they might be my cup of tea, eh?
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Post by maarts on Aug 25, 2004 7:50:26 GMT -5
Yeah, I think you might like . I also thought they might have had a bit of attention off the press there, knowing how they are growing saliva around their chops hearing any decent band that's able to hold a guitar and strike a pose... Anyway, the album's solidly pop, produced by Simon Raymonde but doesn't sound Cocteausian at all...like Muse without the drama or Coldplay without the sickly melodies.
Couldn't help but laugh at the ads on top of this board, prasiing a 'talking Jesus doll', 12" who will recite the Ten Commandments, even though they're not even his....
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Post by Proud on Aug 25, 2004 8:02:43 GMT -5
well, here's a late reply... top 10 album openers...
(in no real order)
Alice in Chains - Rotten Apple Depeche Mode - The World in my Eyes Foo Fighters - This is a Call Jane's Addiction - Stop Pavement - Silent Kid (or Kit, if you read the back of the box) Pink Floyd - Speak to Me/Breathe Rolling Stones - Paint it Black Sunny Day Real Estate - Seven (AWESOME song) The Clash - Clash City Rockers Weezer - Don't Let Go
damn, i'm so trendy.
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Post by JesusLooksLikeMe on Aug 25, 2004 8:17:43 GMT -5
I need to have a listen maarts. Let you know when I've DL'ed a track. Any specific suggestions?
Ooh, how about top ten debut album opening tracks?
1. Reel Around The Fountain - The Smiths (surprise surprise, none of you saw that coming eh?) 2. I Wanna Be Adored - The Stone Roses (classic) 3. Untitled - Interpol (still their best song?)
Well, three'll do for me.
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Post by tuneschick on Aug 25, 2004 8:25:43 GMT -5
Interesting stuff...
I was just thinking about this statement of Mary's... I think that people who dive into lifelong relationships at that age miss something of life - too many compromises too young, too much seeing yourself through somebody else's eyes. I'm not saying this is always the case, there are some model relationships that start very young and are wonderful things, but all too often you just don't know what you're getting into before you find yourself trapped.
I was 21 when I started dating S - I'll be 27 when we get married. We joke all the time about how he robbed the cradle - but to be honest, I like to think that I didn't miss anything by starting a lifelong relationship at that point. (OK, so I'm sure that's what everyone would like to think about themselves, right?) I don't know, I guess I just feel like he's HELPED me see a lot of things more clearly in my life, and not by just seeing them through his eyes. It sounds cheesy, but he's quite honestly the best thing that could have happened to me. It's never been one of those relationships where we won't do something just because the other person doesn't want to, or stop seeing our friends because we're a couple now.
And that's not meant to sound defensive, because I DO know a lot of people who stick in dead-end, unhealthy relationships just because they don't know how to be on their own. I don't know, I just think it depends on when you're ready for that sort of relationship, and when you meet the right person. I happened to meet him when I was 21... if I hadn't met him until I was 31, I'm sure I would have continued to date a string of losers for 2 or 3 weeks at a time before realizing that it just wasn't worth it.
Anyway - I think it's equally great to be happy on your own or happy in a relationship. It's when you're miserable in either of those two states that things get ugly.
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Post by tuneschick on Aug 25, 2004 8:28:42 GMT -5
And I ran into a bit of a scary situation when I got off my train at Union Station this morning...
Police shoot man in armed stand-off August 25, 2004
TORONTO -- An armed hostage-taking at Toronto's busy Union Station ended just before 9 a.m. with a man being shot dead by a police sharpshooter, leaving the hostage shaken but unharmed and the normally bustling area eerily quiet.
A single shot was fired by a member of the police emergency task force more than 40 minutes after the tense situation began. The female hostage, who appeared to be in her 20s and was simply passing by when she was grabbed by the man, was led away from the area by police and taken to hospital by a waiting ambulance.
The victim was conscious on arrival at hospital and Community Safety Minister Monte Kwinter said she was "injured, but slightly.''
Soon afterwards, a body covered by a tarp was seen lying on the ground not far from the train station's main entrance. Toronto Police Chief Julian Fantino said the man was "mortally wounded.
"It's a regrettable and unfortunate outcome but the officers did their job," Fantino said in a live news conference from outside Union Station about one hour after the shooting.
Fantino said the incident began shortly before 8 a.m. in the food court of the TD Centre where a woman was shot in the head. Reports say she was rushed to St. Michael's Hospital. She was conscious on arrival at hospital. Her condition is not known.
A description of a suspect from that shooting was broadcast over police radio and an officer working a paid-duty at the Fairmount Royal York Hotel attempted to stop a man who matched that description, Fantino said. The man fled toward Union Station, with the officer in pursuit.
When the man reached the south side of Front Street near the main entrance of Union Station, he grabbed a woman passerby on the sidewalk and held a gun to her head, Fantino said.
"(The gun) was pointed several times at the police officer as well as at the woman that had been taken hostage," Fantino said.
The officer attempted to negotiate with the suspect while heavily-armed police tactical officers surrounded the area, closing off Front Street from Bay Street to Yonge Street. A police negotiator was brought in and attempt to talk to the suspect.
"His movements were threatening all along,'' said Fantino.
Concerned that the situation would escalate and others could be hurt, a police marksman fired a single shot, killing the man.
Union Station was also closed, although passengers arriving on GO Trains could exit the station through the underground mall. The GO Bus terminal had been closed and buses were being diverted to Queen's Quay and Yonge Street.
It is not clear what prompted the incident.
The province's Special Investigations Unit has been called in to probe the incident. The SIU is a civilian agency that investigates circumstances involving police and civilians which have resulted in serious injury, sexual assault or death.
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Post by pissin2 on Aug 25, 2004 8:32:44 GMT -5
10 great album openers:
Pantera - The Great Southern Trend Kill AIC - Them Bones Aerosmith - Back In The Saddle Guns N' Roses - Welcome To The Jungle Chevelle - Open Aerosmith - Nine Lives Pearl Jam - Go Korn - Blind AFI - Strength Through Wounding Bouncing Souls - Apt. 5H
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Post by strat-0 on Aug 25, 2004 8:33:36 GMT -5
I hope that wasn't you he grabbed, Tunes!
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Post by Proud on Aug 25, 2004 8:34:53 GMT -5
"I think that people who dive into lifelong relationships at that age miss something of life"
i understand the message behind this, but i'm beginning to wonder how this is so, despite being told this for years. life... maybe i just have a depression issue (i know i feel better when i get out), but i'm starting to think that this idea of "you can do anything" is flawed. i mean, what is the world? what greatness is out there, to do, to experience? i'm starting to wonder that. i'm starting to think our existence is pretty plain.
*ends there without further detail*
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Post by tuneschick on Aug 25, 2004 8:43:38 GMT -5
I hope that wasn't you he grabbed, Tunes! Thankfully not... and thankfully, they were able to get the girl away. Union Station is the main train station here and that's where all the GO (regional) trains and VIA trains come in. Then there's a walkway to the subway station. That's where I was heading when we were told we couldn't go to the subway. My automatic assumption was that someone had jumped in front of the subway (which unfortunately happens quite often.) It was only when I got the street and saw about 20 police cars, lights flashing, blocking the street... that I knew something was really wrong. But it wasn't until I got to work that I knew what had actually happened!
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Post by Dr. Drum on Aug 25, 2004 8:57:34 GMT -5
"Rock n' Roll Lies"? That's the weakest song on the album, except maybe for "Leave Me Alone". The other 11 are classics. Start off with the title track or "Dalston" for the album track feel, and also one of the singles - "Golden Touch", "Stumble & Fall", "Rip It Up", or "Vice". Knowing next to nothing about them, I picked it entirely at random, JLLM. I'll check out a couple more.
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Post by luke on Aug 25, 2004 9:48:10 GMT -5
Some great openers...
Whatever Happened?- The Strokes Hands on the Bible- Local H Jacqueline- Franz Ferdinand Black Shuck- The Darkness Cecilia Ann- The Pixies Violet- Hole Welcome To The Jungle- GNR Smells Like Teen Spirit- Nirvana Dramamine- Modest Mouse The Good In Everyone- Sloan Here Comes Alice- The Jesus and Mary Chain Supervixen- Garbage World In My Eyes- Depeche Mode Galaxie- Blind Melon Wild Side- Motley Crue
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Post by luke on Aug 25, 2004 9:54:57 GMT -5
As for that age/relationship combo, I'll prolly be married at...goddamn...23. Possibly 24. She's been in enough failed relationships to know what she really wants and needs, and I've known plenty enough stupid sluts and the like to know when I have a winner. Neither of us really do much with our other friends anymore, and not because we feel obligated not to, it's just that we'd genuinely much rather be around each other.
Actually in the process of buying a small house, being that I've got a year left of college and then two of grad school, so we'll prolly be in this town for another four years or so, and renting for that much longer seems pointless.
Fuck I'm exhausted. Her birthday tomorrow, work every night, first week of school, and I've been up at six a.m. every morning for the past two weeks to run six to ten miles.
I'm ready for this weekend. That annual stripper party that I always come back from with cucumber stories? This Saturday.
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Post by Mary on Aug 25, 2004 9:56:57 GMT -5
Shit, yeah, when I first read that article tuneschick posted, I definitely thought she was trying to say that she was the one who the guy grabbed!! And I was like, wow, tuneschick is one tough badass gal, being as she decided to post that as a mere afterthought after sharing her thoughts on S...!!! And tunes, I definitely didn't mean to imply anything about your relationship with S, which, based on whatever we can glean on RS, sounds perfect for you. I guess I would just stress that I also wrote "I'm not saying this is always the case, there are some model relationships that start very young and are wonderful things" and I really meant that part!! I have recently seen a spate of relationships started at around 20 or 21 crumble, not because of anything very specific that happened, but because one of the people in the relationship basically had this sudden, intense sense of being trapped in something that they had entered into a long time ago when they were a very different person. I've just had my friend's ruined marriage on my mind so much lately.... I didn't mean to make a sweeping generalization..... Oh, and punkchick, I honestly don't think there is anything at all weird about never having had a real boyfriend at 19. I know a fair number of people who never had a real boyfriend or girlfriend all through college. Many of them went on to meet wonderful partners in their 20s. Where you go to college also really matters in this regard - a lot of these people were also former punks and misfits who somehow wound up at Dartmouth, of all places, and just didn't fit in, and couldn't find anyone they were inclined to date because it, too, was full of frat boys and pre-professionals and preppies. I don't say this derisively - I'm not saying all preppies and pre-professionals are scum or anything like that - only that there weren't a lot of people to connect with at Dartmouth. It just sounds like you might be in a similar situation - but wait till you are afforded the chance to strike out on your own and to really meet all kinds of different people. God, maybe I just need to get back to SF so I can stop mulling over everything that's happening in my life in my head and just start living it again! This is the problem whenever I'm away from things - I can really live inside my head for too long. A friend was telling me a few weeks ago that whenever she is falling in love, her fear of death becomes much more intense and painful, because she feels like if anything should be able to conquer mortality, it should be love, and when she realizes that in spite of this person she's still going to die by herself when her time comes, she just feels the fundamental loneliness of the human condition all the more painfully. And that was all I could think about last night as I was trying to fall asleep in the fucking 100 degree furnace that my parents call a "bedroom" here....!!!! Maybe I just need to get drunk again Cheers, M
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