Other than Death Metal, what are you listening to?

[skvorecky]

[RocDoc]

poor john fahey was such a conflicted weirdo...incredible player who then (i'm guessing) just got bored with all the adulation and decided to just go out and confound people/audiences and slowly got weirder and weirder, apparently liking to fuck with peoples' expectations of him.
i saw the guy play very late in his life at the world-famous, architecturally unreal Unity Temple (a frank lloyd wright creation in the suburbs here, oak park specifically w/its TONS of flWright works) shadowed by an unknown jim o'rourke, who was handing him his guitar, a white stratocaster, which he proceeded to bash and scrape away on - first concert ever that i've walked out on.
his earlt-to-mid stuff is unreal, right up there with leo kottke and jack rose and the other weirdo, robbie basho.
funny (and telling) that fahey's biography was subtitled, 'how bluegrass music ruined my life'...
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holy shit don!
quite the melange - the freaking dead, serious soul-blues and then frankie goes to hollywood!
man!
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NP:
the evening blooz show on WDCB-FM(90.9) - a wonderful npr station at a local JuCo ...just played f mac's albatross for some reason. all else has been some pretty down home stuff so far.

[skvorecky]

I can't wait for this album in October. Witchy-Cocteau Twins goodness.

[skvorecky]

Jul 21, 2012 19:42:45 GMT -5 RocDoc said:

poor john fahey was such a conflicted weirdo...incredible player who then (i'm guessing) just got bored with all the adulation and decided to just go out and confound people/audiences and slowly got weirder and weirder, apparently liking to fuck with peoples' expectations of him.
i saw the guy play very late in his life at the world-famous, architecturally unreal Unity Temple (a frank lloyd wright creation in the suburbs here, oak park specifically w/its TONS of flWright works) shadowed by an unknown jim o'rourke, who was handing him his guitar, a white stratocaster, which he proceeded to bash and scrape away on - first concert ever that i've walked out on.
his earlt-to-mid stuff is unreal, right up there with leo kottke and jack rose and the other weirdo, robbie basho.
funny (and telling) that fahey's biography was subtitled, 'how bluegrass music ruined my life'...
~
holy shit don!
quite the melange - the freaking dead, serious soul-blues and then frankie goes to hollywood!
man!
~
NP:
the evening blooz show on WDCB-FM(90.9) - a wonderful npr station at a local JuCo ...just played f mac's albatross for some reason. all else has been some pretty down home stuff so far.

John Fahey is not what I would consider someone who had notoriety on a level as a Earl Scruggs or Lester Flatt. He was one of those guys in his hey day of the 60s who was a "player's player" kind of musician. Fahey was always weird doing Tibetan chants and tape looping even in the 60s. He didn't particularly like the straight folk scene and was certainly not fond of Pete Seeger and his merry band of bolshie brats. He contracted Epstein-Barr Syndrome in the mid 70s, which will put anyone down, which he finally defeated but he had a lot of health problems off and on in his life, a lot of which were of his own devise with his bouts with the bottle. During that time while he was getting very experimental in the 90s with O'Rourke, he started Revenant Records to show that he was still very much into roots oriented music focusing on reissues of artists such as Cecil Taylor, Stanley Brothers, and Doc Boggs.

I personally would have loved to have met you outside of that club and gladly taken your ticket because I think a lot of that stuff is brilliant and I loved his forays into weirder music.

Have you read "How Bluegrass Destroyed My Life"? It's really good. Also, most musicians, speaking as one, don't want to spend their careers repeating themselves. I applaud those artists that are still trying to push boundaries as artists for themselves. I think it's important. If they lose fans in the process, that's to be expected. I don't think Fahey did it in a "fuck you" sort of way at all. If you read his short sketches on his life in the mentioned book, you'll find it was quite the opposite.

[RocDoc]

you would have sat back down a half-empty unity temple.
it wasn't just me and my buddy stan who left.
it wasn't JUST the music - he was talking gibberish, couldn't 'play' at all in any conventional sense and you could see that he was not a well man.
it was embarassingly sad actually...and not in the least bit pleasant.

i do recall his epstein-barr diagnosis now that you mention it - but no, it wasn't that he was doing 'something different' and more 'advanced' in his musical life as tho he still had his chops.
he also laid off guitar for some lengthy period of time, hit the bottle, got sick and just could get nowhere near the facility he'd once had.
i don't feel it's AS experimental as you say, when he was left with 10 blocks of wood instead of finger, not the unreal 'instrument' he once had....he was left with his name, peoples' respect and he (w/o'rourke's encouragement, imo questionable) amd it totally looked like a 'wtf why not' circumstance, serving no-one but his bank book (and prob o'rourke's to some small degree).

[skvorecky]

That's too bad. I personally would have been happy to be there to see a legend. I don't know. I don't really have high expectations of performers that have been around for a really long time. I just go to see them and hope for the best. If it sucks, oh well, I'm just glad I got to see them regardless.

[Ayinger]

Jul 24, 2012 10:35:27 GMT -5 skvorecky said:

I can't wait for this album in October. Witchy-Cocteau Twins goodness.

[glow=red,2,300]N I C E !!!![/glow]

( and good call on the throwback sound/feel to it )

[RocDoc]

this morning:


then

<sub>Rory Gallagher
Brillant Outtakes, Demos & Specials

This blues cd contains 15 tracks and runs 78min 20sec.
Freedb: bd125a0f

► Tags: music, songs, tracks, blues, Blues
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1.Rory Gallagher - Hoodoo Woman (03:49)
2.Rory Gallagher - Gipsy Woman (04:42)
3.Rory Gallagher - The Cuckoo (03:40)
4.Rory Gallagher - Who Do Man (07:15)
5.Rory Gallagher - Used To Be (05:32)
6.Rory Gallagher - Secret Agent (06:11)
7.Rory Gallagher - Country Mile (04:40)
8.Rory Gallagher - Keychain (04:24)
9.Rory Gallagher - As The Crow Files (03:50)
10.Rory Gallagher - Philby (03:29)
11.Rory Gallagher - Born Under A Bad Sign (07:15)
12.Rory Gallagher - I'm Ready (06:16)
13.Rory Gallagher - Politician (06:57)
14.Rory Gallagher - For The Last time (04:11)
15.Rory Gallagher - Garbage Man (05:59)</sub>

[skvorecky]

Amazing cover of Bowie's "Boys Keep Swinging" on this album. The album has contributions from Boyd Rice and Peter Christopherson.

[RocDoc]

interesting, um, overtones there.
musically, it's like that old auzzie band who talked their lyrics, i think they were called 'flash in the pan', weren't they.
more conceptual than musical, espec ially this.

np:

<sub>The Eagles
The Kingdome
Seattle, WA (USA)
Aug. 6, 1976


Soundboard recording


**mp3 samples provided (as always) in the Comments section**


Here's a really nice VINTAGE Eagles show that I recently downloaded from tapecity (uploaded by ahavi21 over there).

After doing some additional research, this same show was previously shared here on DIME by hanshcv in Oct. 2006. The previous DIME torrent was snatched an impressive 1,222 times before falling off the tracker (due to "exceeding inactivity") in November 2008. Thanks again for hanshcv for the original share!

The overall sound quality of the show is extremely good (check the samples), but there are some occasional glitches or tape warbling...nothing major. The setlist for this show is outstanding, and I found that this show makes a nice complement to the awesome-sounding March 4, 1980 Eagles show that I uploaded previously (torrent #223894). As of this writing, that show has been downloaded 3000+ times from this site alone...and several hundreds of times over on other trackers. The nice thing is that there is very little overlap between both show's setlists.

I did not alter any of the FLAC files nor the original text file, but added this updated text file as well as the now-mandatory fingerprints file (in both .ffp and .txt form). If you previously downloaded this show, please consider helping to seed for others who may have missed it the first time around.

Below are the original torrent's notes:


Taper: Unknown
Source: Soundboard
Transfer: CD-R from trade > EAC > FLAC Level 8 > you
Sound Quality: A-/A in my rating and ears....

Disc 1
1 Take it Easy
2 Outlaw Man
3 Doolin-Dalton
4 Desperado Reprise
5 Turn to Stone
6 Seven Bridges Road
7 Lyin' Eyes
8 Take it to the Limit (cuts in)

Disc 2
1 Desperado
2 Midnight Flyer
3 Already gone
4 One of These Nights
5 Funk #49
6 Good Day in Hell
7 Witchy Woman > encore break
8 James Dean

Notes:
Nice soundboard from One Of These Nights Tour.
Since I got this in a trade I dont have any info
about lineage, taping equipment etc etc.

Do NOT encode to MP3 or any other lossy compression format.
This is intended for free trade only. Do not buy or sell!!</sub>


i'm currently reading a book on the calif rock scene of the 60s/70s called 'hotel california' and a few books ago i read don felder's excellent autobiography, so i had to drag this one to my sansa i-pod so i could give it another listen.
for one i did NOT look for flac for this, luckily for me (and my hard drive!) - the sound quality just doesn't justify it. someone's oldoldold cassette of a very tinny-sounding show with hiss that even i (w/my raging tinnitus) can hear.
but in its favor, it is all here AND very well-mixed.
the music IS so well done however and you can hear all the parts, the vocal harmonies and the guitars of felder AND joe walsh in the mix.
there's a jam in 'turn to stone' that incredible.
PLUS i just heard '7 bridges' on here which felder said was always used as a backstage pre-show vocal warmup before cocaine and arrogance killed the hippie spirit of their early days.
i do not recall ever having heard it before and it was magnificient, especially here, so now i've got an idea of what felder was talking about.

[skvorecky]

I don't know how anyone can listen to the Eagles and actually enjoy it. It's baffling.

[skvorecky]

[RocDoc]

then you're not trying hard enough to unbaffle it (just a touch) for yourself intellectually.
if you're shouting 'corporate rock!' through the vocal harmonies (especially THIS sort of live perf, not studio) and the seriously wailing guitars of don felder and joe walsh (felder's slide especially) well, THERE's your problem.
IF it's because you cannot get past that they HAVE been played to death (their hits anyway), well, it comes down to imagining them right AT their inception, when they'd not been played at all yet and they were competing with the likes of the byrds, the buffalo springfield and later csny.
just now after having read these 2 books, i've got a better appreciation of what their early days were like - and they started out 'honest'.
they loved music...and when i heard it a couple of hours ago (and now knowing the song's history) '7 bridges road', an old traditional tune, really showed where they came from.

really it's very easy to slag someone off (esp 'overplayed' 'corporate', blahblahblah), i do it to bands all the time too, but i've always been a fan of country-rock/americana whatever you want to call it, and the eagles (individually AND together) were absofuckinglutely worthy at their start....
but when the star-making machinery wound up, what WERE they supposed to do?
bernie leadon (a guy w/great musical cred fwiw) tried to buck the 'trend' then got shitcanned for not 'flowing' w/frey and henley, the supposed 'hitmakers'

what would YOU have done skv?

[skvorecky]

What are you talking about, what would I have done?? And what is with your fucking attitude? Are you always this contentious in real life?

I'm not trying hard because frankly, they've never done it for me. Why try to like something that doesn't sound pleasing to me? It has nothing to do with the fact that their "baffling" intellectually or any of that. They don't do for it for me and I find them entirely overrated, over-sung, and completely underwhelming as far as their talents go.

They can't hold a candle to The Byrds' "Sweetheart of the Rodeo" and they sound like watered down A&R pap that picked at the dead work of Gram Parsons.

The Eagles are soporific Laurel Canyon coke rock whose chief existential lament seems to be "What toppings should I get on my burrito?" The Eagles are the quintessential band for a decade whose favorite barbiturate was the Quaalude. In essence, the worst of their chosen genre and edified beyond their talent.

And dude, handle people not liking the shit you post about. You've talked shit on almost everything I've posted here with the exception of the Tamaryn post and you don't see me getting all pissed about it.

[skvorecky]

Yep. 20 years ago this young kid had his life turned around by this album. JEEZ? 20 years? Dang. This record still kills and is just as good as anything The Smiths did.