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Post by ScottsyII on Oct 3, 2005 10:29:38 GMT -5
I'm just going to go with the whole "my favourite 15 British Bands" brief I think... I can't honestly sit here and say, yeah, for me the Beatles are the best British Band EVER when I don't own any of their albums... this is, as I understand it, a poll to see what we VALUE as listeners, what we like, not what we think we have to say because its "appropriate" to say it in the face of history and intellect about the evolution of rock...
Nah, for me this is more about us asserting what we like, collectively speaking... if it so turns out that the majority vote for the Beatles as their best British Band, then so be it... history is proven yet again...
But lets not all just sit around and pick bands because we feel like we have to respect them because they were historically significant, culturally significant, whatever... lets pick stuff that we love and make it a truly preferential list.
I bet the Beatles will end up on top anyways.
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Post by luke on Oct 3, 2005 10:41:08 GMT -5
Drum, I think I'm afraid of being too "knee-jerk anti-historicism" in my list. I'll at least put The Clash over The Beatles (as I do think there is a real argument there), and I'm wondering about everything else...
Also, looking at some of these mass listings of bands, I'm starting to see my list of "favorite" Brits as just me being grouchy that day. Lots of room for Primal Scream, Judas Priest, Cocteau Twins, Black Sabbath, etc. on my favorites list.
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Post by Kensterberg on Oct 3, 2005 12:07:12 GMT -5
Oh I definitely do NOT want people to just list the bands they think are historically the most important (you'll notice that I left the Beach Boys out of my personal US list, although from a historic standpoint they'd probably rank in the top five, and X wouldn't be anywhere near the top). If we're just talking historical importance, then it'd be an argument between the Beatles and the Stones, with the Who, the Clash and the Smiths rounding out the top five (they'd all be top ten, for certain). No, I guess what I'd like is for people to go with their hearts -- who really does it for YOU. There's enough of us here that we're likely to avoid some really funky outcome (like the Killers making the Top Five, for example), but I'm not interested in rehashing history. That's really more for the Influential Music board, anyway.  BTW, you can be assured that the Beatles will not be my number one pick, and might even rate as low as number three! And the Stones just might not even be in the top ten ... so please don't feel bound to just stick to the usual suspects. Vote your heart and your conscience ... or your wallet, as the case may be. |
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Post by melon1 on Oct 3, 2005 12:22:30 GMT -5
Too many awesome bands came from the Brits to even count.
True, JAC, but not too many for me to pick a top 4. Matter of fact, if we end up making official lists I'm actually going to have to ask if I can have a three-way tie for #1. Here's undoubtedly how my the beginning of my list will look:
#1 U2, Pink Floyd and Led Zeppelin
4. Radiohead
If I forget about Kid A and Amnesiac, and maybe even I Might Be Wrong, they'd likely have a spot here.
Ken, I must admit, you're a mystery to me, musically that is. I can't relate to this statement at all. I've heard you admit in the past that you consider Achtung Baby to be one of the greatest albums ever made and I agree with you strongly on that one. However, even though you talk with such expertise about music all the time, I can't think of anyone on these boards, except for perhaps Mary or Chrisfan, that I relate to less musically. I mean, you really threw me for a loop the other day when you were listing your favorite songs on A Ghost is Born and you told Rocky that "At Least That's What You Said" certainly wasn't one of them but rather "Handshake Drugs" and some other ones which, IMO, are the lesser ones on the album. When I say "threw me for a loop" I meant to add that I saw you later say something like AGIB was a disappointment to you. It's my favorite Wilco album. I think it all started back on the RS boards when you said you gave DSOTM 3 stars "respectivelly". So, by now, you're probably wondering why in the hell I'm writing you all this. Obviously we have two totally different brains, which is no big deal, but I just had to let you know I've never met anyone so knowledgable about so many kinds of music that I disagreed with so much.
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Post by Kensterberg on Oct 3, 2005 12:34:09 GMT -5
but I just had to let you know I've never met anyone so knowledgable about so many kinds of music that I disagreed with so much.
Actually, this is a kind of a compliment, at least I'll take it as such. I think that my tastes are actually pretty easy to summarize. I tend to like short, or at least concise, musical statements with a minimum of excess. In other words, pretentious wankers need not apply. My most significnant formational musical influences were the Beatles, Bruce Springsteen, and the Clash. Really, I think almost everything else I like flows out of that. There are a few artists that don't really seem to fit (Stevie Ray Vaughan is probably the most glaring, but I've got an independent love for the blues and (good) jazz, and so SRV sneaks in on those grounds). Given that, and how little I care for Thom's voice, the fact that I like Radiohead at all is really more surprising than their albums that I don't care for. OK Computer and Hail to the Thief are really the only RH albums I listen to often, or really like.
But I'm baffled by anyone's love of Blind Melon, for example, and so it's easy enough for me to see where we wouldn't exactly agree on a regular basis. And FWIW, Mary and I had very, very similar musical tastes prior to her Nick Cave obsession, and Bowiglou and I share a lot of musical ground as well. As long as I can explain why I like the things I like, and why I don't like the rest of the stuff, I feel pretty good about my capacity to appreciate and comment on music. The day I'm reduced to "it's got a good beat and you can dance to it" is the day I no longer count myself as a music fanatic.
And please do come up with an "official" listing. Top 15 by next Friday, which is October 14, 2005. I'll post a time of day deadline later ... but you can probably assume that it'll either be noon or 5 p.m. mountain time, USA. I'm really curious to see people's lists, I think this is gonna be very interesting ...
NP: Bob Marley and the Wailers, No Woman No Cry (live at the Roxy)
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Post by luke on Oct 3, 2005 12:50:37 GMT -5
I can't wait until I've surpassed the college scene for long enough to once again listen to Bob Marley, Pink Floyd, and The Doors in an objective fashion.
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Post by Kensterberg on Oct 3, 2005 12:53:53 GMT -5
I can't wait until I've surpassed the college scene for long enough to once again listen to Bob Marley, Pink Floyd, and The Doors in an objective fashion. LMAO Luke! As you know, I've never gotten back to the latter two, and it took me until I was damn near thirty to really be able to listen to Marley with some sort of objectivity. I'm still trying to sort him out, but his best stuff does absolutely floor me, especially now that I can view him without the clouds of ganja in the way. |
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Post by Galactus on Oct 3, 2005 14:09:42 GMT -5
Tin Lizzy be Ireland's finest export.
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Post by Kensterberg on Oct 3, 2005 14:41:39 GMT -5
Tin Lizzy be Ireland's finest export. Wasn't the Tin Lizzy produced in/around Detroit by Henry Ford? Just checking ... *********** This has been a test of the Bowiglouism Alert System. In the event of an actual Bowiglouism, well, nothing would have been any different. We now return you to your regularly scheduled programming. |
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Post by rockysigman on Oct 3, 2005 15:00:16 GMT -5
There's enough of us here that we're likely to avoid some really funky outcome (like the Killers making the Top Five, for example), but I'm not interested in rehashing history. That would be a REALLY funky outcome, considering the Killers are from Las Vegas and all. |
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Post by Galactus on Oct 3, 2005 15:01:28 GMT -5
Re: Thin Lizzy
Two thirds of the band were from Dublin and the first, I think, four albums were released on Deram records which was a british sub of Decca. I don't know where they were recorded though.
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Post by Kensterberg on Oct 3, 2005 15:05:41 GMT -5
Mantis -- You had typed TIN Lizzy. This was a nickname for an early Ford production car (the Model A, I think? maybe the Model T ... I dunno). So I was calling you on a Bowiglouism, not seriously questioning the band's credentials for this debate. All clear?  |
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Post by Galactus on Oct 3, 2005 15:07:54 GMT -5
...oop...ha, I knew that. Yeah. That's it...I love cars! I'm gonna work on one right now...
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Post by Kensterberg on Oct 3, 2005 15:08:18 GMT -5
There's enough of us here that we're likely to avoid some really funky outcome (like the Killers making the Top Five, for example), but I'm not interested in rehashing history. That would be a REALLY funky outcome, considering the Killers are from Las Vegas and all. Excuse me? You're telling me THAT accent is merely an affectation? And those cheesy Flock of Seagulls synths are also just stolen? I am shocked, shocked! at this outrage. I had no idea ... "nevermind." |
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Post by strat-0 on Oct 3, 2005 15:55:51 GMT -5
Tin Lizzie = Model T.
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