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Post by sisyphus on Feb 27, 2006 17:21:32 GMT -5
fuck looks. it's personality that is my mag-night. I thought Glenn was supposed to be the heartbreaker in Wilco... |
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Post by Galactus on Feb 27, 2006 18:35:58 GMT -5
Ken, I agree about the up-tempo songs on Summer Teeth, they IMO are far better than the slower ones. Plus, I love the up-tempo/pop sound but w/ dark lyrics....cool combo. I disagree, Via Chicago is one of their top five songs. Pieholden Suite is great as well...hell, I love the whole album... |
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Post by rockysigman on Feb 27, 2006 18:38:03 GMT -5
I was gonna chime in in defense of "Via Chicago" and "Pieholden Suite" as well (VC is probably my #2 all time Wilco song), but the rest of the slower songs are hit or miss. "How to Fight Loneliness" is good. "In a Future Age" is alright. "My Darling" and "We're Just Friends" are, IMO, among Wilco's worst songs, however. Two of the slower songs on the album are among Wilco's best, but overall, the faster tempo songs hit with a higher percentage -- none of the fast songs on the albums are bad at all.
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Post by Galactus on Feb 27, 2006 18:40:31 GMT -5
How to Fight Loneliness is another favorite.
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Post by Weeping_Guitar on Feb 27, 2006 18:47:01 GMT -5
"Via Chicago" and "Pieholden Suite" are proof that God exists.
Granted, I like the ironic struggle between the lyrics and music in much of that album so it's really not a difference maker. It's the song themselves that are so magnificent, played at any tempo.
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Post by Kensterberg on Feb 27, 2006 18:49:40 GMT -5
Via Chicago is alright, but really none of those slower tracks resonate with me the way, say, Reservations or Sunken Treasure, do. I love the up-tempo stuff on Summerteeth, but the slower tracks are just a notch lower. Both YHF and Being There are more consistent, but it's a real small distinction between these three, which all rank among the best albums of the past decade.
IMO A.M. is really over-looked and under-rated. It's not as adventurous as the later albums, but it is a solid effort, with absolutely no duds. Box Full of Letters, Blue-Eyed Soul, Casino Queen, Should've Been in Love ... these are great country inflected rockers, and deserve more praise than they normally recieve. It's not the songs fault that Tweedy would subsequently expand both his reach and (at least until AGIB) his grasp. These are still great songs for what they are, with no apologies necessary.
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Post by Galactus on Feb 27, 2006 18:51:59 GMT -5
IMO A.M. is really over-looked and under-rated. It's not as adventurous as the later albums, but it is a solid effort, with absolutely no duds. Box Full of Letters, Blue-Eyed Soul, Casino Queen, Should've Been in Love ... these are great country inflected rockers, and deserve more praise than they normally recieve. It's not the songs fault that Tweedy would subsequently expand both his reach and (at least until AGIB) his grasp. These are still great songs for what they are, with no apologies necessary. I completely agree with this. When they pull out Casino Queen asses will be rocked. |
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Post by rockysigman on Feb 27, 2006 18:52:08 GMT -5
In my opinion there are a couple of blatant stinkers among the lyrics on A.M.. A few of the lines on that album are downright cringeworthy and embarrassing. The tunes are pleasant though. It's a worthwhile listen from time to time. I agree that it's underrated, but I wouldn't say there are really any great songs on that album other than "Dash 7" and "Passenger Side". Lots of good ones, yes, but not many great ones.
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Post by Galactus on Feb 27, 2006 18:54:04 GMT -5
Honestly, I think crap lyrics is one of things that keeps YHF from being higher on my list.
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Post by rockysigman on Feb 27, 2006 18:57:02 GMT -5
Which songs do you think have crap lyrics on YHF? I'd certainly say that a couple of them aren't as great as some others (I would never argue that "Pot Kettle Black" or "Kamera" are as solid lyrically as "Ashes of American Flags" or "Poor Places", but I wouldn't say they're bad at all). On YHF there's a whole lot more abstraction in the lyrics than in earlier efforts, so sometimes its a little tough to tell if the meaning is just so dense that it's hard to understand, or if perhaps it's just completely meaningless, but there's nothing on there that makes me cringe the way that certain lines on A.M. do. Maybe I'm giving him a little too much credit for abstraction rather than just meaninglessness, I don't know.
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Post by Kensterberg on Feb 27, 2006 18:58:53 GMT -5
I just love Passenger Side ... the best song about drunk driving (and a certain kind of lower-class white lifestyle) ever written.
can you take me to the store, and the bank?
I've got five dollars I can put in the tank.
I've got a court date coming in June, I'll be driving real soon ...
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Post by Kensterberg on Feb 27, 2006 19:00:43 GMT -5
I can't say much bad about YHF at all ... any album that has both Ashes of American Flags AND Jesus, Etc., is more than alright with me. Both of those are serious contenders for most beautiful rock song of the last twenty years.
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Post by rockysigman on Feb 27, 2006 19:03:52 GMT -5
And to say nothing of the album's true masterpiece, "Poor Places".
Yeah, I know that "Poor Places" being the best song on the album is not a popular opinion, but I stand by it. My #3 Wilco song I think.
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Post by Kensterberg on Feb 27, 2006 19:06:05 GMT -5
And to say nothing of the album's true masterpiece, "Poor Places". Yeah, I know that "Poor Places" being the best song on the album is not a popular opinion, but I stand by it. My #3 Wilco song I think. Well Rocky, this does then beg the question ... what ARE your ten favorite Wilco songs? |
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Post by Kensterberg on Feb 27, 2006 19:08:29 GMT -5
My ten fave Wilco songs ... not really in order ... except number one ...
1. Outtasite (outtamind).
2. Jesus, Etc.
3. Misunderstood.
4. Ashes of American Flags.
5. Summerteeth.
6. Nothing'severgonnastandinmyway (again).
7. Sunken Treasure.
8. Passenger Side.
9. Monday.
10. Theologians.
That was actually a lot tougher than I thought ...
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