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Post by Galactus on Oct 10, 2006 20:26:39 GMT -5
which is pretty much what they did on the last tour 90% of the set lists were songs from the first four albums. When you become that band that only plays one or two songs from your new album, you need to re-evaluate. Good point ded! This is one of the many reason why I like PJ so much -- they play about 3 to 4 songs off each album everynight. They bulk of their set list from this tour seem to be focused on Ten, Vs., and Avocado. All of the other albums get attention too, but not as much as the other 3....The other night, they had a heavy Riot Act set list though.... I'm not even talking on a single night basis, on the last tour Metallica played three...maybe four songs off that album on the entire tour. Dave Grohl said in a interview one time that he realized One By One wasn't a good album when he realized half way through the tour they'd only played a couple songs from it (granted somehow this realizition didn't make the next album better...). As far as I'm concerned how many songs from your last album get a regular run through on tour is a major measuring stick to how relevent your band still is. |
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Post by Galactus on Oct 10, 2006 20:29:14 GMT -5
Maybe if you played the two of them at the same time ... sort of like that Flaming Lips album from a few years back (Zaireka?). Wow, that's just wrong. |
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Post by kool on Oct 10, 2006 20:36:44 GMT -5
LMAO! I just can't see how a song like "Some Kind Of Monster" can mesh with "Leaving New York". I might actually try it some time, just for laughs. It can't get any worse now, can it?  |
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Post by kool on Oct 10, 2006 20:41:55 GMT -5
Around the Sun and St. Anger similarities.
Both albums are the worst albums both bands have ever released.
Both albums are way too long.
Both albums don't have any real standouts, and just sound like one long (boring) song.
Both albums feature the worst lyrics they've ever written (especially St.Anger).
Both bands peaked right before an original member left/died.
Both bands are already hyping their upcoming 2007 "damage control" albums (which chances are won't be that good anyway. Still hoping though, especially for REM. I have a little more faith in them because Metallica have sucked for the past 15 years already).
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Post by kool on Oct 10, 2006 20:46:48 GMT -5
oh, almost forgot:
Both acts peaked commercially long after peaking creatively. (Although one can argue about AFTP being REM's creative 'peak'. Most old die-hards disagree though)
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Post by Proud on Oct 10, 2006 23:09:44 GMT -5
... Around the Sun and St. Anger in the same comparison?
*puts his fist through a wall*
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Post by Paul on Oct 11, 2006 8:33:31 GMT -5
When was 'Around the Sun' released? I've never heard it. Doesn't sound like I'm missing much....
'St. Anger' on the other hand was pretty bad. What happened to Metallica? They derailed w/ the Black album, and have yet -- 15 years later - to get back on track....
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Post by Thorngrub on Oct 11, 2006 9:32:41 GMT -5
'what happened to metallica?' - *koff*, I'll tell you precisely what happened w/the formerly-important metalsmiths of the bay area: They got the taste for fame & riches; they see themselves as 'superstars'. No quicker or more effective method exists by which one's music (or art) will degenerate into an impoverished parody of what once made it relevant.
For relevance in old metal bands reigniting their pure fire, see Celtic Frost ....
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Post by skvorisdeadsorta on Oct 11, 2006 12:02:43 GMT -5
Also see Newstead's work with the new Voivod record as well. I think Newstead wasn't into them being such egomanical bastards either.
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Post by Thorngrub on Oct 11, 2006 12:11:05 GMT -5
Man, for me, Frost & Voivod go hand in hand. I'm really looking forward to the new 'Vod - didn't care for their 'Newstead Premiere' that much. Here's hopin' they trashed that sentiment and opted for some good ol' hypercubic techmetalstorm instead.
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Post by Paul on Oct 11, 2006 12:24:04 GMT -5
To my understanding, it was a fall out and it mostly had to do with James Hetfield being a dominant asshole. The big thing is that Newsted wanted to do side projects (especially in the long breaks between albums and touring) and Hetfield disapproved. And, according to the Some Kind of Monster documentary, Newsted quit just as the band planned to hire the shrink to work them through their problems and that turned him off. There may be other reasons but the overall is that for Newsted, being in Metallica restricted him creatively when he wanted to do other things. Ahh, yes, Tommy Lee was knocking at his door for RockStar: SuperNova.... |
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Post by Thorngrub on Oct 11, 2006 12:29:48 GMT -5
well, let's not forget the infamous COLD LAKE, released (unfortunately) in the late 80s by ubermetalsmiths CELTIC FROST. That should be on the list.
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Post by Paul on Oct 11, 2006 12:35:40 GMT -5
What about 'Cut The Crap' by the Clash?  |
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Post by Galactus on Oct 11, 2006 12:38:30 GMT -5
What about 'Cut The Crap' by the Clash? When even the band doesn't like to acknowledge it, you know it's a bad album. |
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Post by Thorngrub on Oct 11, 2006 12:39:24 GMT -5
ironic title
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