One-Album Wonders

[maarts]

Tangerine Dream went all-electronic in 1968- they had a drummer at the time but by Zeit all music was made by synthesizers.

Before that Stockhausen already used electronic equipment.

[skvorisdeadsorta]

Yeah, but Kraftwerk made their own electronic drums, so I think they were the first totally electronic band in the sense of how we see a band. Stockhausen and those guys were definitely doing all electronic compositions way before that for sure.

[Galactus]

loudaab said:

ded said:

PEW, there are guys here who really honestly know and live music, you're not bullshitting anybody but yourself buddy.

ded, what is your definition of honestly knowing and living music?

It mainly consists of not playing your games.

[loudaab]

skvorisdeadsorta said:

Nice comeback, PEW. Nice. It's about right up there with the "I know you are but what am I" kind of rhetoric of a third grader.

From your blog to correct:

#1. Mash-ups have been around long before George Martin and his son utilized the technique to create the Beatles' "Love". It was there in the disco culture of the 70s when DJs really started picking up steam to the present day. The Beatles are not the most sampled artist in history and while they are sampled, so are a ton of other artists. Alot of hip hop artists have been using Aerosmith and Led Zeppelin for drum breaks, now Dave Grohl is starting to be heavily sampled, especially his drum work on "In Utero". The deal is that the Beatles are not the only band that are being sampled and they are not saving hip hop by any means. Again, another racist point of view from some Rockist that needs to put the black man down by portraying some crackers from England as saviours of an African-American founded expression of art. Nice.

#2. On your horrible article on Synth rock, if you are going to start with the Futurists, it would be wise to know your subject. For one, you glossed over almost 50 years of famous 20th Century composers from Russia, John Cage, Varse', Musique Concrete, and just a ton of others that you just glossed over. Also, the Telleharmonium was built in 1897, not 95. I can't see how that would be for effect to post an inaccuracy like that. Also, you failed to mention the Theremin, which was very important to the beginning of electronic music and synthesizers.
It is also well known that it is Kraftwerk, and not Tangerine Dream, that was the first all electronic act.

skvorisdeadsorta said:

Also, neither Courtney Love or Yoko Ono are groupies. Both are artists of their own volition. Courtney Love slept her way to the top, but I would hardly call her a groupie. Using sex as a tool for power and social status has been done by men for decades, so why not a woman musician? Another fine example of the sexism that rockjism is.

Also, Yoko Ono was not a groupie. She was an internationally famous fluxist artist who blew the mind of Lennon. I'd hardly call her a groupie and if you knew anything about the story of the Beatles, you would know that Linda McCartney had just as much to do with the volatile break up of the Beatles and maybe more so.

If you really knew anything about Daniel Johnston, you would know that it wasn't his goal to sell his soul to the devil for fame. In fact, one of the things that pops out with his condition is his MORTAL FEAR of the devil. I know, I live in Austin and I have a couple of friends who are in his band, Danny and the Nightmares, so while he wanted to be a big songwriter, the devil had nothing to do with it.

On your American Hardcore thing, Greg Ginn of Black Flag was hugely influenced by The Greateful Dead. DC has had a healthy music scene and is responsible for some great bands like Q and Not U, Autoclave, The Nation of Ulysses, Trans Am, Bad Brains there are just a ton of great bands from the Alexandria, Richmond, Baltimore, DC area. Cheney is also originally a Representative from Wyoming and was born in Lincoln, Nebraska. I would hardly call him "From DC" nor would I say the same for Nixon. That's one of the reasons why the scene was so great is you had this pocket of anger against the politicians that lived in their backyard who were these insane transplants making awful legislation for the entire country. Dave Grohl is from the DC/Virginia area. Also, Fugazi did not do interviews with magazines that had Liquor or Tobacco ads, not magazines that they would not read themselves. They have done plenty of interviews with magazines that I'm sure that they have no desire to read that were in line with their personal philosophy of not being associated with that industry.

"THEN came Hardcore and MacKaye's precious straightedge movement which was basically a bunch of rich kids from the Suburbs PRETENDING to be punk by shaving their heads and putting safety pins through their noses."

WRONG. Straight Edge was about not drinking, not smoking, not having sex, not eating meat and not doing drugs which is pretty much the antithesis of The Sex Pistols. Also, you are aware that McLaren managed The New York Dolls, totally destroying their career and tried desperately to destroy the career of Richard Hell because he wanted to be associated with the NYC scene so bad. That was before the Sex Pistols. In fact, much of McLaren's ideas for the Pistols came totally from the NYC scene after he went back to England with his tail between his legs.

Also, it is on record if you would ever care to read the interviews of the bands that you talk about, that several of the American bands were heavily influenced by the British artists. The Minutemen were way into Wire and The Pop Group. Minor Threat was very much into the Buzzcocks, The Clash, Crass, artists such as that. Bad Brains were really into making really fast hardcore with the mixture of the Dub Roots movement that was so huge in England at the time.

Also, the bands of that era didn't just develop the DIY culture, they DEFINED it.

If you can't see the quality of the Ramones, you're a retard.

You obviously didnt read my blogs very closely (if at all) because you've grossly mischaracterized or just flat out incorrectly represented what I've written.

[Galactus]

I suspect it sounds great in your head but just looks dumb in the written form. My point Ed, is that you're not smarter then everyone here. Stop acting like it.

[kmc]

I hate you, PEW.

[skvorisdeadsorta]

You obviously didnt read my blogs very closely (if at all) because you've grossly mischaracterized or just flat out incorrectly represented what I've written.[/quote]

Dude, no. I even pasted directly from your blog so that I could respond to it directly. Your blog is a scam, a sham, and a plagiarized grammatical mess. I have read them closely like closely watching a train wreck.

You suck, dude. Actually, I don't even know about that. I bet you could mess even that up.

[skvorisdeadsorta]

From PEW's blog:

"Dimebag Darrell, from Pantera, he died two years ago Dec 8th. The interesting thing about him is the date of his death puts him in the company of Jim Morrison (who was born on Dec 8th, 1944) and John Lennon (who was assasinated on Dec 8, 1980).
The question I have is, if Dimebag had died on any other day but this one, would he ever be thought about (other than by extreme metal heads)? Does he even deserve being mentioned in the same sentence, paragraph or page as Lennon and Morrison?"

The only answer I can say to this is an obvious, "YES". For one thing, the guy was shot while on stage. That right there is pretty news-worthy. Not to mention the fact that even outside of Metal, most guitar players would listen to that guy play and just go "holy shit, I've never heard anyone sound like that". Again, this is the fundamental problem with rockjism that I have and this entry is a perfect example of it: who the fuck cares and what exactly does it have to do with music outside of playing some segregation game?

It's so stupid, it's sad.

[rockysigman]

I hadn't realized that Dimebag died on the same date that Lennon died or that Morrison was born. I have never heard that referenced once. I also hadn't realized that Morrison was born on that date actually.

I hear Dimebag talked about all the time though, still. So no, the date of his death has nothing to do with anything, and to suggest that it does is stupid.

Thank you and good night.

[skvorisdeadsorta]

Also from your Blog:



"Enter the 1980s--a time when the need for rockjism was more dire than ever. Everywhere you looked you saw hairbands, synthesizers, drum machines, lip-synching, spandex wearing pretty boys and *gasp* choreography. Real Rock was deeply underground and DIY at this point. You could find it in the hardcore scene; Minor Threat, the MinuteMen. And you could find it on college radio; R.E.M, the Replacements, etc. In fact Rock was actually very strong, confident, and resilient through the 80s and by the end of the decade mainstream audiances would begin to take notice once again. Janes' Addiction, Sonic Youth and the Pixies signaled this reemergance, but it was the Seattle bands that blew the lid off of things. Here were an entire army of bands doing Rock pretty much the way it was supposed to be done. But this too became corrupted and therefore only lasted a short while before the best Rock went underground once again. "



The 80s might have been one of the greatest eras of mainstream music in my opinion. For one thing, Motley Crue's "Too Fast For Love", Def Leppard's "Hysteria", and Guns N Roses' "Appetite For Destruction" are classic rock records and they were in the mainstream. Girls who didn't even like rock music, were buying those albums and learning that rock could be exciting. Prince had amazing albums that were recorded and released in the 80s almost single handedly defining the decade and I love his albums. Man, really I could go on and on.

Synthesizers were around in the 70s that were used by stupid people with bad music. Spandex was worn by Ziggy Stardust and others. Big bad hair was worn by men that used a ton of hairspray and also wearing spandex. Lip Synching was done on the Ed Sullivan show in the 60s. Hell just a couple of years ago there was a lip synching debate concerning Ashlee Simpson! Choreography was utilized in the 60s with most of the Soul Bands. (But I forget that you don't like African Americans, so I guess that nixes that, Paul Edward Norton as a Nazi Wagemann)

Music has always had those corporate blow bags that didn't belong, not just the 80s.

[skvorisdeadsorta]

Jim Morrison was born December 8th, 1943, you dumb ass, PEW. Another example of inaccuracies in your blog, douchebag.

[skvorisdeadsorta]

I honestly think that PEW didn't think any of us would read his blog and then call him out on his shit.

[Galactus]

Look, Skvor we all know he's an idiot and he's never going to admit it. Why are you putting so much effort into it? His whole game is to put you on the defensive, to make you feel like you have something to prove to him.

[kmc]

Just hate him silently, dude.

[skvorisdeadsorta]

I'm actually enjoying yelling at him right now.

Buzzkills, damn, man.