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Post by Thorngrub on Oct 19, 2004 14:17:34 GMT -5
Yes. Adam doesn't merely "play" the guitar: leave that for the knobby-knees & preskoolers. Adam Jones literally utilizes the guitar as a tuning fork with which to channel the composite vibe of TOOL's unique sound and emblazon it upon their creation as snugly as a second skin. He doesn't so much play the guitar in the conventional sense as he cultures an aetheric mantle with which the music's bulk may be lifted into a higher realm of frequency & feedback. This is just a way of saying that the "wings" which Adam builds for TOOL, although perhaps not designed along the same principles as other band's "guitar-wings", nonetheless serve to defy the gravity keeping the band down, and magically lift it beyond the stratosphere as if on a cryptic and alchemical principal of quantum electromagnetics. He's the "Delta-Wing" guitar player, whose style, while appearing ineffective on the surface, in fact proves, when all is heard and done, to accomplish things conventional guitarists could only dream of. Adam Jones is the "stealth"-guitarist. His guitar work infiltrates the listener's consciousness like a deadly gas: deadly to a generally-accepted mode of what a guitarist should be, that is. Adam Jones is not a guitar player; he's a guitar technologist. And armed with his Magnetic- Resonance- Inductive Axe of Computed Tomography, he is surely set out to map previously unimagined realms of audial glory, vistas the likes of ordinary guitarists could not fathom given another millenia to evolve.
In this light, I hope I have clarified the issue as to whether or not Adam Jones deserves recognition as an unparalleled maestro of an instrument whose time in the next step of evolution has finally come, heralded on the wings of TOOL's progressive songscapes.
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Post by RocDoc on Oct 19, 2004 19:23:56 GMT -5
*eyes roll crazily to the back of his head*OK, OK. I am NOT saying that Adam Jones is a hack or anything near...but in the 'conventional'(which is a term like 'normal'...ie useless)sense of a rock and roll guitar player....especially as a live player, Jones is at least just a bit of an effects-dependent player(well, duh), like Edge for U2, like Greenwood for Radiohead(!).....and I DO like those guys AND Jones....and they do inspired fills and (like thorn said) 'soundscapes' which the rest of the band riffs over. And virtuousically, for all 3 bands mentioned. Thayil for Soundgarden does also serve that purpose, but he can do powerchord riffs as accents within a solo like few others...perhaps a Pete Townshend or an (don't laugh!!) inspired Joe Perry. Joe Walsh, when inspired is another. Trevor Rabin. Adrian Belew. Those guys can do a slash and burn rhythm/lead combo that just kills me when I hear it done 'right'. Jones, in the studio on 'Sober' pulls it off...and I understand he's able to serve the song, not just wank away. But live, he is VERY in the background most of the time. Tho I gotta give Salival another spin, now that I've said this.... 
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Post by pissin2 on Oct 22, 2004 9:46:54 GMT -5
Laugh at Joe Perry? NEVER.
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Post by RocDoc on Oct 26, 2004 16:55:21 GMT -5
...aaah, I was thinking you weren't being serious there til I saw your opinion on Aerosmith at that new "25-Influential Bands"-board, pissin. There's at least one redeeming factor to ya....  ....well, no matter what trace says about this supposed all-redeeming, erm, 'sexiness' of yours. That's not something that this particular guy is going to be swayed by. Ahem. Perry has ALWAYS been one of my favorite players...the solos of 'Train Kept A-Rollin'...and then all the way up to the one in 'Love In An Elevator'... He elevates even the later day dreck....sometimes. A great playing style... |
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Post by Thorngrub on Oct 27, 2004 13:31:24 GMT -5
JOE PERRY IS THE ONE AND ONLY ACTUAL ROCK AND ROLL SUPER HERO.
Fuckin Stan Lee should devote a superhero comic book series to him, and it should be called:
[glow=purple,2,300]JOE PERRY[/glow]
" ROCK SUPERHERO "
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Post by pissin2 on Oct 27, 2004 13:44:09 GMT -5
Well he does have a spider-man guitar, that I'm sure he played on the spider-man theme song, as well as the music for the animated spider-man series. 'Nuff said.
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Post by bowiglou on Oct 27, 2004 19:58:22 GMT -5
rn et al...as much as I've tried to keep an open mind, I have loathed Aerosmith since day one.............sorry, must be one of my many musical blind spots!!!!!......that scarfy image is absurd...his voice is grating..and the music is pedestrian at best.................
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Post by pissin2 on Oct 28, 2004 9:04:45 GMT -5
You're right, they are america's greatest rock n' roll band.
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Post by Galactus on Oct 28, 2004 10:37:38 GMT -5
Aerosmith's first five albums are really good, pretty good untill Draw The Line...whose sole saving point is the title track...real shitty untill Permanent Vacation...where they became a fun but spotty commercial act. Though I understand they're still really good live and Honkin' On Bobo is better then I expected...Man, Aerosmith have a long tradition of god-aweful album titles but that's in the top five...
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Post by pissin2 on Oct 28, 2004 10:47:10 GMT -5
Night In The Ruts is really good, and that came after Draw The Line. Actually so is Done With Mirrors. I think they're both underated by a lot of people. They demand your respect!
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Post by RocDoc on Oct 28, 2004 12:16:43 GMT -5
Bright Light Fright is the best song on Draw The Line...begging to differ.
I have yet to hear Done With Mirrors, I think. Tho I have heard good things about it...
Bow, yeah, we've been here before and I honestly don't know how you see them as pedestrian....but yeah, the blooz-rock in general ain't your thing(ie the dislike of ANY sort of wank/jamming ala the Allmans et al)...I'll agree that the first Aerosmith wasn't THAT special, but they just went off to the stratosphere with Get Your Wings. As mentioned above, the squeeeealing guitar solo tradeoffs on Train Kept A Rollin' are simply masterpieces, worthy of Yardbirdsian/Zeppelinesque comparisons.
Tho now, I can't recall if Zeppelin and the Yardbirds too, were out of your realm of enjoyment....I mean if you never ever have had a bit of shiver-inducing enjoyment hearing Heartbreaker or Four Sticks or OverUnderSidewaysDown(or Hot Rails To Hell for that matter), well then that page of 'metal' is closed to ya, obviously....full stop.
As much as I rebel against the Clash worship here, I honestly DO appreciate their musicality on London Calling especially, tho Strummer's mush-mouthedness wears on me.....but THEN, someone like the Replacements...now THEIR deification I certainly don't get at all. There's one for me which I have to honestly say I feel, 'There's no 'there' there'...they do nothing so extraordinary anywhere, to my ears. Not enough to rate this adulation they seem to get.
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Post by Galactus on Oct 28, 2004 12:39:21 GMT -5
Ok, ok Done With Mirrors is alright, though certainly not exceptional. Right In The Nuts is only about half a steamer...the good songs are better on Classics Live I & II.
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Post by pissin2 on Oct 28, 2004 12:57:26 GMT -5
Rock In A Hard Place was even sort of ok. I mean Jimmy Crespo is no Joe Perry, but I dig it out once in a while.
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Post by Thorngrub on Oct 28, 2004 17:09:02 GMT -5
Bright Light Fright. . . hell yes RocDoc!, and also (of course) the deadly KINGS & QUEENS. . . I'm afraid Draw The Line remains a bonafide classic . . . and the perfect place to "draw the line" for hardcore purists. Yet I personally drew my line after Done With Mirrors. I found a copy of it on vinyl a few weeks ago: the labels on the back cover are actually printed in reverse (so you have to hold it up to a mirror to read the song titles)! badass
Oh and Night In The Ruts is a good, heavy album
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Post by bowiglou on Oct 28, 2004 17:15:46 GMT -5
actually RN, went to my 30 year HS reunion a few weeks back, and they played all 1974 type songs, and I will admit it was somewhat nostalgic hearing Whipping POst, Johnny Winter, Blue Sky, and other of that ilk.....so I really don't completely mind jams, as long as they are circumscribed within 180 seconds!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.......................I actually adore the Allmans 'Eat a Peach" and Johnny Winter Live............but something about Aerosmith just grates on me...........maybe it's that collagen lower lip!!!!!!!!!!
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....well, no matter what trace says about this supposed all-redeeming, erm, 'sexiness' of yours. That's not something that this particular guy is going to be swayed by. Ahem.
