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Post by RocDoc on Nov 17, 2004 18:58:26 GMT -5
'Uncertain Smile'? I dunno...problem is that I can't say that I remember it. Maybe my disappointment with the rest of it(this highly regarded 'masterpiece' that I was REALLY hoping to be blown away by)..but to have these supposed earthshaking, groundbreaking(usually 'punk') discs disappoint me(like 'Doolittle' also did), happens more and more as I try to fill in the blanks of my musical past with some things highly recommended by the esteemed members here.
Makes me believe that there was probably a good reason why I 'missed' these so-called seminal treasures....what bits of those that I heard at the time simply didn't connect then, whether because they were too raw or too strident or something. But I found what I liked in the UFOs, BOCs and Thin Lizzys of that day...
Just the other day, I found the Best Of The Undertones,
a band which Tunes just raves about...and the first three songs just totally lost me in a 'you had to be there THEN'-way...meaning I could appreciate that you had to have had a reason to like them then, when they were coming up. Because IMO, their music hadn't aged well at all.
Relating to this...
Last week I was at a shop where the guy was playing a vinyl something on a player...and I'm like 'This is SO familiar, but damn I don't remember it sounding this raggedy' but then I recognized 'Rock And Roll Queen' by Mott The Hoople, then Thunderbuck Ram...which were ICONS of my group of friends which to me then WAS the pinnacle of rawk....and here to me(tho it was great to hear!)it sounded almost amateurish in a Replacements/UNdesireable sortaway, JUST for a second...I think that it just shows hat I simply don't have as much of an ear for that sloppy lo-fi sorta stuff anymore...if I even EVER did...
BTW I stiil have my vinyl of that expensive-at-the-time import of that Rock And Roll Queen album...
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Post by Ryosuke on Nov 18, 2004 20:00:06 GMT -5
So which The The album should I go after next? I admit that I originally got Mind Bomb because of the Johnny Marr connection, but good God, that one is one hell of a masterpiece, with or without Marr (I think he only plays on like two songs), and I can actually imagine you liking it, RocDoc. The playing is intense, and the sound is much more refined than Soul Mining. Not that I think you should go out of your way to get it, but if you can find a used copy at a reasonable price, I think it's worth a shot.
I'm a bit ambivalent about the Replacements myself. The first one I got was Pleased To Meet Me, which I was lukewarm to not so much for its sloppiness as for the fact that it sounded kind of ordinary to my ears. And then I proceeded to acquire a copy of Don't Tell A Soul, which I liked a lot more, but I know that that record isn't exactly a favorite among Replacements fans.
However, I will argue for the sheer pop brilliance of Doolittle until my dying breath!
Samples - whoops, I just realized that I neglected to answer your question. To be honest though, IÕm not exactly sure what a "douche" is...
And um, I've never even heard of this band called Sigh.
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Post by Philemon on Nov 18, 2004 23:32:57 GMT -5
"douche" is the french word for shower
and I think it is used in English to mean
getting the effect of a "cold shower" ...
Or something else ...
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Post by maarts on Nov 19, 2004 4:43:45 GMT -5
I have a vague feeling that a 'douche' in Amerislang means something quite different....
...at least that's what my mother thinks- several years ago our famliy hosted two young American guys as part of an exchange-program and they looked quite strange at her after picking them up from the airport, bringing them to our home and she innocuously asked if the boys 'wanted a douche...?'
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Post by Dr. Drum on Nov 19, 2004 6:23:17 GMT -5
So which The The album should I go after next? I admit that I originally got Mind Bomb because of the Johnny Marr connection, but good God, that one is one hell of a masterpiece, with or without Marr (I think he only plays on like two songs), and I can actually imagine you liking it, RocDoc. Yeah, I can imagine RocDoc liking Mind Bomb, too…. If the real Jesus Christ were to stand up today /
He'd be gunned down cold by the C.I.A. ;D Ryo, I’d recommend Dusk as your next The The purchase. A complete Johnson/Marr collaboration this time out and a damn near perfect record. Great batch of songs from Johnson, the personal replacing the political. Marr is the album’s secret weapon, though, Smithsian on songs like "Slow Emotion Replay", wailing on harmonica on "Dogs of Lust", breaking out the funky wah-wah on "Sodium Light Baby"... |
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Post by Ayinger on Nov 19, 2004 11:14:01 GMT -5
Replacements -- "Pleased To Meet Me" would have been my suggestion to the latter mid-period of their non-sobriety (does that make sense?) -- they still had a bit of an edge but were heading to more refinement. "Let It Be" is classic fun (moreso than "Tim" IMO) with a fuck-it attitude. If you liked "Don't Tell A Soul" you might get "All Shook Down" which is mellower to a point of being a Westerberg solo album.
n/p: Miles Davis "Bitches Brew - The Complete Sessions" disc 3
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Post by bowiglou on Nov 19, 2004 23:43:21 GMT -5
from when I first heard "this is the day" on a local LA radio, I just fell in love with THE THE , and I can say unequivocally soul Mining was the most oft-played LP for me that year...........though at times it is a bit of a vehicle for Matt Johnson's self-absorbed rants, the music and insight was heads and heels over much of the music at that time.................Infected was fine as well as Mind Bomb and Dusk, but in my mind, nothing touched Soul Mining..................
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Post by Ryosuke on Nov 20, 2004 4:55:26 GMT -5
Yeah, I can imagine RocDoc liking Mind Bomb, tooE If the real Jesus Christ were to stand up today /
He'd be gunned down cold by the C.I.A. ;D Hey, he liked Soul Flower Union (they refer to Bush and Sharon as "thugs" in their latest single), so why not?  Thanks for the recommendation, btw. Will be looking for that album. |
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Post by RocDoc on Nov 20, 2004 15:23:03 GMT -5
I tend to go along with contradictions to my personal beliefs/views IF the music is good enough...how else to explain my love for the late lamented Midnight Oil...and admiration for the at-times dunderheaded, but SO extremely well-intended rantings of Peter Garrett...aaah, c'est la vie.... ;D NP:  I'm not always in the mood for this style of bop, but damn, today this sure seems to fit....and this is Vol 4 of a series? Cool! I've grabbed a Mehldau disc here and there, but maybe because I just wasn't in the mood, he didn't connect, then. Maybe it's the dbl espresso I'm drinking that has put me straight INTO this disc, sitting somewheres stage right...  |
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Post by RocDoc on Nov 20, 2004 15:35:47 GMT -5
...and if SFU declares with all authority that Bush and Sharon are simply thugs, they're still saying/singing it in Japanese, so what do I know? Why let words get in the way of good music?;D SFU are an excellent band... This will be embarassing if you didn't, but...Ryo, I seem to recall you mention that ma-a-aybe you might be able to put some SFU on disc for me somehow...like when you first came on here. It'd sure be cool if you could....  |
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Post by Meursault on Nov 20, 2004 20:13:36 GMT -5
I say go with Dusk next, then get Soul Mining quick and then Infected.
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Post by Ryosuke on Nov 21, 2004 0:56:34 GMT -5
Marr (I think he only plays on like two songs) Actually, I just checked the credits for Mind Bomb, and Marr plays on quite a few of the songs on that album. I must have been drunk or something when I posted that, even though I hadn't taken a single sip of alcohol... RocDoc - Oh yeah, I definitely do remember offering to burn SFU on to a CD, and that offer is most certainly still valid! Just fire me your address via PM or email(ryosukemusic.mail.goo.ne.jp) and I'll see what I can do. Would you like me to burn the live material on to a CD, or some new material by SFU? |
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Post by Dr. Drum on Nov 21, 2004 6:59:39 GMT -5
Ryo, I thought I remembered Marr being on fewer songs on Mind Bomb, too... But yeah, when you check the credits he’s on 7/8 songs on Mind Bomb and 8/10 on Dusk (though the first song is is just Matt Johnson and his acoustic).
However, I think the difference was that Johnson had already written most of the songs on Mind Bomb when Marr joined, whereas on Dusk they collaborated on the material from the start. I think you can hear this on the record – Dusk’s songs are by and large a lot less sonically dense than the songs on Mind Bomb, there's a lot more room to breathe...
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Post by Ryosuke on Nov 22, 2004 23:32:28 GMT -5
*refuses to give up on this thread*
Recent listens:
She Like Electric - Smoosh
A pair of pre-teen girls with indie credibility. Scary thought!
Substance - New Order
In all honesty, I prefer New Order over Joy Division. So sue me.
Kanjusei Yo Outou Seyo - Eastern Youth
Because I'm burning this album for thorn. I swear to God, these guys blow every contemporary emo/punk band out there out of the water. One of my favorite current Japanese bands.
Wind's Fairground - Soul Flower Union
I've deicded that this is my favorite SFU studio album (nothing of course can beat their live album, High Tide And Moonlight Bash). Heavy Irish influence, featuring the full help of Irish musician Donal Lunny and his band.
Muswell Hilbillies - The Kinks
Recenly bought a used copy of this album. Definitely not your typical Kinks record, but a great one nevertheless.
Morehappyness - The Aluminum Group
A bit Great 3-ish, although they have a much more post-rock sound than the Japanese band.
Tokyo 23-ku Suishou Omoide Shuushuu Bukuro - Yakozen
One can't be blamed for being wary of Japanese acoustic duos - considering that an overwhelming majority of such units are utterly worthless garbage these days, but one listen to these guys should tell you that they are for real - they mean every word and every note that they sing.
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Post by Ryosuke on Nov 23, 2004 0:04:51 GMT -5
RockDoc - Sorry, the email address is ryosukemusic@mail.goo.ne.jp
I forgot to put in the fucking @!!!
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