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Post by Rit on Jun 19, 2006 5:43:09 GMT -5
i've got nothing more to add. i abhor the post-Dark Side albums anyway. (except maybe.. just maybe.. perhaps The Final Cut).
i'd rather hear what your personal take on all the albums are.
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Post by Galactus on Jun 19, 2006 8:47:11 GMT -5
I'm going to try to listen to everything up through maybe DSOTM over the next few days, I'll let you know If I change my mind about any of it.
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Post by Rit on Jun 19, 2006 8:59:35 GMT -5
i'd like to hear your writeups about it.
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Post by Thorngrub on Jun 19, 2006 9:31:55 GMT -5
i've got nothing more to add. i abhor the post-Dark Side albums anyway. (except maybe.. just maybe.. perhaps The Final Cut). i'd rather hear what your personal take on all the albums are. Until you admit that Animals Wish You Were Here The Wall & The Final Cut are all works of stellar rock'n'roll, I'm afraid my soul is closed to you. |
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Post by Rit on Jun 19, 2006 9:51:13 GMT -5
NOOOOOOOooooooooooooOOOOOoooooooo!
Thorn. i can't live like that.
tell you what. you write up your reviews of all the albums, and we'll come to some consensus.
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Post by pauledwardwagemann on Jun 19, 2006 9:52:25 GMT -5
but Piper at The Gates of Dawn? let me count the ways i love thee... For a brief crystallized instant in early 1967, (the year of the cynically named ‘Summer of Love’), Barrett trafficked in the unfettered promise of joyful expressionism, an unpolitical radical, happily adrift in a tempestuous sea of his own making; wilfully obscure yet dementedly engaging; at once distant from his nascent audience yet still glowing like a nuclear artefact amidst them. Ironically, Barrett never clicked with the so-called flower children on the 60s – although he partook in the same symbols and tokens, and tried to be inclusive, the context of Piper’s creation was always going to ensure that it remained a deeply unsettling (and even alienating) listening on a fundamental level. This has proven true till the present day. It can't merely be squared away. Piper taken along with the first two Syd Barrett solo albums (which are Floyd albums in a way, since the Floyd band members are implicated in them all over the place), is a highly original and undiminished body of work. I really dont associate Barrett with the hippies and flower power movement as much as I associate him with a small cardre of slightly (or perhaps not so slightly) demented yet undeniably creative geniuses of the likes of Edgar Allan Poe or Modigiliani. I think this is even more evident in his solo work than the stuff he did with Pink Floyd. Although his solo stuff isn't "psychadelic" like his stuff with Pink Floyd, the songwriting is no less originally unique. Many of his solo tracks seem simple (some are accompanied by nothing but guitar), but they become more complicated on repeated listening. And his lyrics can at times seem childlike, just like on Pipers at the Gates of Dawn and his other work with Pink Floyd, but accompanied by his haunted voice and versatile melodies, these child-like lyrics convey a gammit of images, emotions, and ideas. But what really seperates Barrett's music from most others is tht it invites the listener into exploring the dark corridors of an open mind--which sometimes makes listening to him rather challenging. For instance, often you can hear the germ of an amazing song in a Barrett composition--but then you as the listener are required to use your imagination to fill in the rest. Its comparable to the way Modigliani often didnt put much detail into the hands for instance of the subject matters in his paintings. He leaves that to you. The effect this has on Barrett's music is that you know inside his mind he has heard this incredbile song and now he just has to figure out how to materialize it. But he just never follows through--his concentration is off to the next tangent before he can finish the laborioius chore of capturing that song just right. So sometimes when I listen to Syd's 'abandoned' work, I add my own parts to it (in my head or by humming, singing, or making various noises) and somehow they make for an incredibly enjoyable listening experience--possibly even more enjoyable than if he really would have followed through and completed the songs... |
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Post by Rit on Jun 19, 2006 10:09:03 GMT -5
dang, that was awesome  |
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Post by pauledwardwagemann on Jun 19, 2006 10:15:34 GMT -5
dang, that was awesome Like you, I'm obviously a huge Barrett fan. One thing that kind of irks me about the perception of him is that since he turned his back on recording music in the early 70s it has caused him to become the posterboy for what the Rock critics call an 'Acid casualty'. Although, maybe I'm just ignorant, but personally I really havent heard anything so bizzare about his behavior that is any worse than what hundreds of other rock stars have done. He likes to garden and he lives with his mohter. So what? It sounds to me that he just lost interest in going through the "process" of recording music... Who knows, maybe he creates masterpieces that no one will ever hear every night, tinkering around in his living room with an accoustic guitar...or maybe he has a million masterpieces floating through his mind as he weeds the garden each morning. I'm just thankful that he at least shared a glimpse of his brilliance with the rest of the world and that we can listen to it whenever the mood suits us. |
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Post by Rit on Jun 19, 2006 10:22:14 GMT -5
whoa. where'd you come from? i could almost cry. you keep hitting the essential points right on the nail.
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Post by pauledwardwagemann on Jun 19, 2006 11:05:35 GMT -5
whoa. where'd you come from? i could almost cry. you keep hitting the essential points right on the nail. I just discovered this board about a week ago...sorry that I havent read the entire thread, but I've read the last couple pages and totally agree on your impressions of the Pink Floyd albums... Maybe this has already been covered, but I'd be interested to hear what your take on the Barrett solo works is? |
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Post by Rit on Jun 19, 2006 11:12:18 GMT -5
well, i'm at work now, so i can't really do this justice, but MADCAP LAUGHS is definitely the most rewarding of his solo albums. BARRETT is more easy on the ears, but MADCAP has a real haunting quality to it that stays with you long after you've finished listening to it.
i also happen to have (through various means and ends) the HAVE YOU HEARD IT YET compilation... not sure if you've heard of that underground bootleg, but it's well worth your time.
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Post by pauledwardwagemann on Jun 19, 2006 11:17:33 GMT -5
well, i'm at work now, so i can't really do this justice, but MADCAP LAUGHS is definitely the most rewarding of his solo albums. BARRETT is more easy on the ears, but MADCAP has a real haunting quality to it that stays with you long after you've finished listening to it. i also happen to have (through various means and ends) the HAVE YOU HEARD IT YET compilation... not sure if you've heard of that underground bootleg, but it's well worth your time. No, I havent heard of that, but I have an album called Opal..perhaps some of that is on the bootleg... |
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Post by Galactus on Jun 20, 2006 15:53:28 GMT -5
Just to let rit know I'm still the middle of my PF exploration...I want (or at least attempt to) to give them proper consideration.
BTW I have a couple Boots I got in the package if you want them I can put them on slsk.
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Post by Galactus on Jun 20, 2006 15:58:28 GMT -5
I will go ahead and say this...man there is som super shit on each and every album... Corpral Clegg? What the fuck is that? I almost gave up right then and there.
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Post by Thorngrub on Nov 22, 2006 13:46:50 GMT -5
Damn I love that song. It's the kazoos that make it.
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