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Post by luke on Nov 1, 2005 10:21:29 GMT -5
I think the problem with the new White Stripes is that there aren't ENOUGH restrictions. White's vision has overextended his abilities and those of his "band." He needs some help if he wants to be able to do what he's trying to do.
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Post by melon1 on Nov 1, 2005 15:51:42 GMT -5
Sigur frickin' Ros. Thanks, Phil. I totally forgot. That was the one I was going to put on this list rather than The Strokes.
Radiohead hit their peak in the 90s. Coldplay is fucking garbage, the only thing that seperates them from Creed or Nickelback is that they rip old Radiohead instead of old Pearl Jam. U2 is an 80s band.
Sorry, luke, but I disagree with every word of this, except for maybe that Radiohead did hit their peak with OK Computer. But if I had to pick between The Bends and OK or Kid A, Amnesiac and HTTT I don't know which group I'd pick. Coldplay's singer(forgot his name) is unique. I've heard many times that he copies Thom but I don't think so. Believe it or not, I think their sound is quite original and music of this decade altogether would be missing something without them. Achtung Baby is almost as good as The Joshua Tree and U2 has had two great releases this decade, if you ask me.
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Post by koolkat on Nov 1, 2005 17:23:44 GMT -5
For some odd reason, Chris Martin's voice is beginning to annoy the hell out of me. I'd hardly call sounding like a [nasal] cross between Thom Yorke and Jeff Buckley "unique"... and their music lately reeks of "Unforgettable Fire" era U2. "Speed of Sound" is an obvious re-hash of the brilliant "Clocks" and that new single is just plain boring. Sure, they may be selling by the bucketload lately but they've become one of the most un-original pop-rock bands to come out of the UK in ages...
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Post by Kensterberg on Nov 1, 2005 17:27:09 GMT -5
I agree that Radiohead peaked in the nineties. In fact, I'd say that Radiohead made one great album (OK Computer), one very good one (HTTT), and a bunch of mediocre ones. Coldplay are consistently frustrating to me: when they're good they can be very very good, but when they're bad they're awful. Sort of like a millenial version of Simple Minds.
And U2 ... they aren't an eighties band, they're a band for the ages. Honestly, I think they did their best work during the nineties. Achtung Baby and Zooropa are both better records than The Joshua Tree, and Pop is awfully good as well (though the worst tracks here, Miami, MoFo, are among the worst things they've ever recorded). And their output this decade has been top notch as well. IMO How To Dismantle an Atomic Bomb is one of the finest records ever made by a band that was past its twentieth anniversary as a major recording act. Look at the crap that the Stones (for example) were putting out c. 1985 for proof.
Anyways, best band of the nuthin's ... I dunno. I love Wilco, but my feelings for AGIB are well known. It doesn't seem right to give this title to a bunch of geezers over forty (he says as he stares down his own 41st celebration in about a month), nor can I give it to any of the new bands who've actually sold a lot of albums in the last few years.
I dunno, maybe the band of the nineties is Green Day. A couple more like American Idiot and they'll have a hell of a case.
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Post by luke on Nov 1, 2005 17:39:18 GMT -5
Green Day! *barf*
Coldplay just reek of Creed to me, all over.
I'm of the War school in U2 fans...
Which means I absolutely love War and think that Bono lost all his passion from there. Joshua Tree has some okay moments, but nothing I can really get into.
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Post by Rit on Nov 1, 2005 17:56:57 GMT -5
i think Green Day's great. American Idiot is a good album.
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Post by rockysigman on Nov 1, 2005 19:06:12 GMT -5
I think the problem with the new White Stripes is that there aren't ENOUGH restrictions. White's vision has overextended his abilities and those of his "band." He needs some help if he wants to be able to do what he's trying to do. What the hell are you talking about? |
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Post by kmc on Nov 1, 2005 19:23:26 GMT -5
Is this, like, a joke thread? Best band of this decade, and we don't list Broken Social Scene? Radiohead made Kid A, Amnesiac, and HTTT, and we question their work this decade? No Interpol? No Fiery Furnaces? No Ted Leo And the Pharmacists? No TV On The Radio? No Sonic Youth, who has put out two albums this decade SO MUCH BETTER than anything U2 has put out since Achtung Baby? No GYBE, or Animal Collective? No New Pornographers, or Deerhoof, or Sleater-Kinney? No My Morning Jacket, or The Decemberists?
Of the ones listed, I will argue that noone has assembled the body of work this decade that Radiohead has. Of this decade, the best bands so far are (IMO) Broken Social Sceve and Interpol (who was a grower on me).
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Post by kmc on Nov 1, 2005 19:25:13 GMT -5
Riley said it. Broken Social Scene.
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Post by Kensterberg on Nov 1, 2005 19:27:02 GMT -5
kMc does have a good point in that rant ... Where is Sleater-Kinney? They sure as hell belong in any serious discussion of the best bands of the last ten years.
Anybody care to let me know if I'd like BSS? Where's the best place to start with them?
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Post by kmc on Nov 1, 2005 19:39:26 GMT -5
From one Ken to another:
I recommend getting "You Forgot It In People." Perfect pop album. It is ambitious, it is sprawling, it's tight, and extremely well-done. After you really soak that one in, get the new self-titled one BSS album, and notice how it is both a progression and complete 180 from their previously established sound. Oh, and it is equally brilliant.
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Post by Dr. Drum on Nov 1, 2005 21:45:34 GMT -5
Yeah, I could maybe see you going for You Forgot It In People, Ken. "Other Ken" has described it perfectly, sprawling but very deliberately put together modern rock record. And I’d definitely agree, YFIIP makes a much better entry point than the new one.
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Post by JesusLooksLikeMe on Nov 2, 2005 4:25:22 GMT -5
Hmm... I agree Coldplay could be the new Simple Minds in one sense - even as they get better and more consistent they lose the peaks and interesting moments. But Simple Minds were far more eclectic and avant garde during their first 5 years than Coldplay will ever be.
Having said all that, there's nothing wrong with any Coldplay album whatsoever, so I'm not really sure while it's so fashionable to dismiss them. Their output this decade is certainly comparable and (imo) superior to what U2 have done this decade (and probably since the great Achtung Baby!).
I love the Strokes and Radiohead just stay on a genius level.
I detest the White Stripes. I think they have nothing to commend them musically. They're dull on every level. A real case of the emperor's new clothes here. The US press just took 'em like the UK press did the Libs, and made an average, inoffensive band in the right place at the right time huge. In fact, I fucking hate them. If I had a time machine I'd fucking go back 10 years and strangle Jack White with his own guitar string. Whilst sparing Simon Cowell. That's how much I hate that fucker.
As Sigur Ros aren't on the poll though, I voted for Muse. I love melodramatic, busy, overwrought etc. Great tunes, great voice, maestro guitar/bass playing, clever pillaging of classical music, lots of energy, epic ambition.... silly lyrics. Great stuff.
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Post by JesusLooksLikeMe on Nov 2, 2005 4:31:44 GMT -5
I think the problem with the new White Stripes is that there aren't ENOUGH restrictions. White's vision has overextended his abilities and those of his "band." He needs some help if he wants to be able to do what he's trying to do. What the hell are you talking about? I agree with luke! Basically, Jack can do simple-and-tedious just fine. If he wants to do complex-and-tedious he needs expert help. |
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Post by Dr. Drum on Nov 2, 2005 7:24:41 GMT -5
There is no way Chris Martin and his band of anonymous, what’s-his-name replicators can compare with Jim Kerr, Charlie Burchill, Mick MacNeil or Mel Gaynor. Simple Minds weren’t a first division band, granted, and Kerr has always had his little vocal tics and penchant for grandiosity but each of those guys would be recognized by his peers as amongst the best players of his generation. Coldplay will never have that and they'll never have anything to compare with the run from Real to Real Cacophony through to Sparkle in the Rain. Never. Sweet Jesus, there was more verve in "Don’t You Forget About Me" than the last two Coldplay albums combined.
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