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Post by riley on Apr 14, 2006 18:24:33 GMT -5
Cool. Good info Maarts. I think I'll try it next time I hear "Black Dog" blaring from some fucking dummy's truck.
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Post by Dr. Drum on Apr 15, 2006 6:22:47 GMT -5
I knew that you'd like that post, Drum. I will, however, go on record saying that The Trees is every bit as awful as anything that Zeppelin ever recorded. There's plenty of really horrible stuff in the Rush catalog, but most of that was early in their career. They get huge points from me for the fact that they really did grow as a band, instead of churning out the same crap over and over. And Lifeson's guitar work is the really overlooked gem in the group. He's not as flashy a player as Lee or Peart, but he's a very creative and effective guitar player. OK, I feel really unclean heaping this much praise on Rush ... I need to take a shower, or listen to some Television or something ... And it gets better and better, Ken! Re: "The Trees" – good musical composition, baaad lyric. All the same, side 2 of Hemispheres still comes out a winner. You guys would object to the vocal, I’m sure, but "Circumstances" is solid nonetheless and the instrumental, "La Villa Strangiato", is one of the best tunes they ever recorded. |
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Post by frag on Apr 15, 2006 7:56:00 GMT -5
John Bonham's secret to a great drum sound:
first, make sure all of your drum mics are completely submerged in a mud puddle.
second, drink two bottles of cheap whiskey.
third, hit the skins as hard as you possibly can.
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Post by melon1 on Apr 15, 2006 16:31:55 GMT -5
and the instrumental, "La Villa Strangiato", is one of the best tunes they ever recorded.
Amen, Drum. I actually voted for it on the Rush Songs thread. But I was voting for the live version on Exit Stage Left. Would you agree with me that that one's a lot better?
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Post by melon1 on Apr 15, 2006 16:43:10 GMT -5
Comparing Rush to Led Zeppelin for me is like comparing Chris Farley's greatest film to the frickin' Godfather. Of course, sometimes I get in the mood for some Farley, but comparing it to the Godfather, for lack of a better example, is a joke to me. Rush does get intense and emotional in places but it doesn't even come close to touching my soul the way Zeppelin often does. Even if Rush did strange timings and did have different sounds, Zeppelin is still much more of a diverse band. Limiting them to "blues rock" is like limiting Bob Dylan to folk. It doesn't make any sense at all. "Kashmir," "Achilles Last Stand," "Going To California", "Four Sticks". Yeah, those are REAL bluesy.
And most importantly, Jimmy Page is the greatest songwriter of the 20th Century. Yeah, I said it. So he was heavily influenced? Who wasn't? If Waters and Gilmour were the same person then it would be arguable who the greatest songwriter of the 20th Century would be, but they are two minds working brilliantly together. Page's genius is unmatched to me. And even though he certainly put his own signature on the blues songs he "ripped off", you could limit his works to stuff he wrote on his own and he would still stand as the greatest, IMO. When someone pontificates about their knowledge of great music and willfully looks past his brilliance, they loose MUCH credibility with me. He's a force to be reckoned with.
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Post by melon1 on Apr 15, 2006 16:44:57 GMT -5
That being said, looks like Zeppelin is gonna pull this one off and I'm full of glee. ;D
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Post by Galactus on Apr 15, 2006 18:00:46 GMT -5
Dude, I barely even consider Page a songwriter. Zep's a great band but songwriting wasn't their strongest suit...pure fucking power was. Those guys had charisma out the ears. Page was no slouch but to saddle him with lions share of the credit is neither fair nor acurate. Zep would've been nothing without Bonham or Jones.
...and to call him the greatest songwriter of the 20th century is just crazy. It's crazy enough I don't even have to defend it very much. The list of better songwriters is very long. It starts with Roy Acuff and ends with Frank Zappa and there's a couple hundred names between the two.
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Post by limitdeditionlayla on Apr 15, 2006 20:48:10 GMT -5
Rush have a higher absurdity factor than Zeppelin.
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Post by Galactus on Apr 15, 2006 20:56:59 GMT -5
Barely. Rush fans are geekier that's about it.
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Post by riley on Apr 15, 2006 21:01:49 GMT -5
That Plant vocal talk back to Page's guitar is way more fucking absurd than anything Rush ever did, including The Trees.
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Post by Galactus on Apr 15, 2006 21:09:53 GMT -5
Zeppelin have more songs about the Hobbit.
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Post by riley on Apr 15, 2006 21:15:54 GMT -5
Rush don't have any songs where they refer to their lovers as "mama" way too much.
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Post by Ayinger on Apr 15, 2006 21:24:57 GMT -5
Zeppelin at least showed me the pathway back to those grand old blues dudes like Willie Dixon and the lot.....Rush,,,,er....well,,,,,I guess they took me back to Zeppelin....
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Post by limitdeditionlayla on Apr 15, 2006 21:39:28 GMT -5
How many girls like Rush? Huh? Not counting tomboys or girls like me who have high counts of testosterone.
None? Yeah, sounds about right.
The hot mamas love Zeppelin. And you don't hear of Rush pleasuring groupies with red snapper, do you? They were the far uglier band.
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Post by kool on Apr 15, 2006 22:09:20 GMT -5
And most importantly, Jimmy Page is the greatest songwriter of the 20th Century. Yeah, I said it. Agreed. Although not the best guitarist, he had a way with a melody no one else ever had. Simple, direct, powerful, beautiful. btw, comparing Rush to Zep is like comparing Bon Jovi to the Stones. |
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