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Post by tuneschick on Jun 28, 2006 14:19:43 GMT -5
There's no way it can suck. He's God. Well, that's true. Man, if God was a skinny, gangly, chain-smoking freak in thick glasses, I would change my entire view on religion. As it stands, about 70% of the reason I love You Tube so much is that I can now watch the video for Common People over and over and over again. I love that little weirdo. |
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Post by Fuzznuts on Jun 28, 2006 14:27:58 GMT -5
Just watched that video too. Jarvis is awesome.
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Post by NdY on Jun 28, 2006 14:29:13 GMT -5
There's an approx. 10 minute live clip of them doing "Common People" that's absolutely priceless.
Hold up, I'll look for it.
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Post by NdY on Jun 28, 2006 14:30:29 GMT -5
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Post by Ryosuke on Jun 28, 2006 19:52:25 GMT -5
The Smiths never really "made it" in the US either, did they? At least not on the level that even comes close to their success at home.
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Post by Dr. Drum on Jun 28, 2006 20:49:02 GMT -5
So I did a little research on the RIAA site and it appears that James was indeed a wild commercial success compared to most of the bands on that list, going gold with Laid. Go James. Robbie Williams did the same with The Ego Has Landed but otherwise all that any of those bands managed hit-wise was to get to about the mid-40s on the Billboard Heatseeker chart, whatever that is... Not that any of that impacts on the divinity of Jarvis Cocker one way or the other.  NP – Grant-Lee Phillips – Nineteeneighties ("Under the Milky Way") Grant-Lee, I don’t know, man – I think this should really have been no more than a bonus disc to a new album of originals... |
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Post by Galactus on Jun 28, 2006 21:07:00 GMT -5
There is just no way Pulp is as a good The Jam.
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Post by NdY on Jun 28, 2006 21:42:01 GMT -5
DED has suppressed Jarvis issues that he'd rather not talk about.
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Post by Ryosuke on Jun 28, 2006 21:50:47 GMT -5
Just so everyone knows, I voted for the Roses. To me, it was a tossup between them or Suede.
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Post by Kensterberg on Jun 28, 2006 23:09:42 GMT -5
There is just no way Pulp is as a good The Jam. Agreed. Pulp are cool and all, but c'mon, compared to All Mod Cons, Setting Sons, and Sound Affects, plus all those ace singles ... Snap! (the original complete running order) is one of the greatest singles collections ever released. Absolute aces, from In the City to Beat Surrender not a single dud track. |
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Post by Kensterberg on Jun 28, 2006 23:10:20 GMT -5
DED has suppressed Jarvis issues that he'd rather not talk about. It's called 'taste.' ;D |
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Post by limitdeditionlayla on Jun 28, 2006 23:30:06 GMT -5
Supergrass are perfect at what they do. I rather have them on this list than the Stereophonics.
Super Furry Animals are awesome, but they're def not a mainstream band. Pulp are too inconsistent. How many people actually know Pulp beyond Different Class? Plus, Jarvis Cocker is a right shit.
Suede were kinda meh until right before they all called it quits. They released their best single at the end of their career. There should be some award for that. They're ok, for by-the-numbers Britpop.
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Post by Dr. Drum on Jun 29, 2006 6:19:42 GMT -5
Sorry, Ken. The Jam should be a slam-dunk for me and I've tried on more than one occasion over the years to convert intellectual appreciation/respect, which always plays out as basic indifference when I actually listen to 'em, into something between like and love. Always ends up the same – just one of those things. On the other hand, with Pulp it was L-O-V-E from the first song of theirs I ever heard.
I agree with Layla about Supergrass; would have been perfect for this list, too. The Stereophonics I couldn't care less about since J.E.E.P., or whatever it was called, but their first two discs were actually pretty OK studies in miniature. They just didn't have the wherewithal to take it beyond that.
Suede in my books were OK on albums 3, 4 & 5. Their first two, with Bernard Butler, though – bloody brilliant.
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Post by riley on Jun 29, 2006 6:39:47 GMT -5
I liked The Tears disc last year initially because you could hear the Butler/Anderson rapport so clearly once again, and I desperately missed them working together, but unfortunately it just didn't have the same perfect blend of charm and bite that Suede and Dog Man Star had, or at least not with any kind of staying power.
I would agree The Suede stuff after Butler is good, it's just not great. I also have the same admiration for The Jam as Doc Drum, but with perhaps a slightly greater level of enjoyment.
I would suggest on these same lines that Weller's solo work (which I much prefer to The Jam) fits nicely in this discussion. Wild Wood and Stanley Road were huge in the UK and had Weller at the top of the male Brit solo heap for 2-3 years running.
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Post by Ryosuke on Jun 29, 2006 7:14:55 GMT -5
I hated Suede's third album (can't even be bothered remembering what it was called). Cursory listens to their subsequent records left me cold, so I didn't really bother with those.
Just thinking about the potential they had until Butler left the band pisses me off.
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