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Post by Galactus on Aug 30, 2005 10:29:10 GMT -5
Especially Zen Arcade...the kick drum on that album drives me fucking bananas.
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Post by Kensterberg on Aug 30, 2005 10:31:22 GMT -5
Riley -- oh I certainly see where you're coming from. And I would generally agree that Sugar's output is more readily enjoyable than Husker Du's. Copper Blue is like getting a whole album of Could You Be the One? and Makes No Sense At All ... which isn't a bad thing at all. And, perhaps because of when each band was recording, Sugar sounds much more a part of conventional rock and roll history. Husker Du, frankly like much of the best punk/new wave/post-punk/whatever the hell you wanted to call it, always sounded a bit removed from what was then the primary current of rock and roll. There is a palpable sense of discovery and creation throughout Husker Du's catalog, a sense of pushing both internal and external boundaries, that is very rare in any kind of music. Or maybe it's just that I'm a boring old fart who loved Husker Du twenty years ago, and thinks that anything that Mould (or Hart) puts out after Wherehouse is doomed to second rate status. Sort of like people thinking that Macca's solo career couldn't measure up to his work in the Beatles ...  |
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Post by Kensterberg on Aug 30, 2005 10:32:41 GMT -5
Mantis -- What the hell happened to your avatar? Where'd your attractive green sport suit go? Pink is NOT your color, dude!
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Post by strat-0 on Aug 30, 2005 14:00:20 GMT -5
Oh - there you are, DED. Aren't you in LA? Anywhere close to Katrina?
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Post by Galactus on Aug 30, 2005 14:02:54 GMT -5
I'm in NC...we're supposed to get some Katrina loven but other then being windy nothing's happened yet.
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Post by Galactus on Aug 30, 2005 14:06:19 GMT -5
According to weather.com it's pretty much past us, thankfully without incident...usually we at least get a really nasty all day thunderstorm from one of those...
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Post by bowiglou on Aug 30, 2005 18:09:31 GMT -5
well, I did own most of the Husker Du output in the 80s, and found that CAndy Apple Grey and Warehouse were my top two....I did fancy Zen Arcade but in minor bites......however, Sugar's debut was a pop-melodious rendering and I loved it.......I agree with Ken's assessment..but that being said, I still count "sorry somehow" from Candy Apple Grey as the best/angriest song about estrangement ever written in rock!!........at tha time I think I felt somewhat obligated to like HD insofar they were often clumped with the Replacements and Soul Asylum as the saviors or American rock/punk........but no band, and I mean no band, at that time resonated for me like the Mats........I still count Tim as amongst one of my favorite rock records of all time...
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Post by maarts on Aug 30, 2005 19:58:35 GMT -5
I did start out with Candy Apple Grey back in '86 too and was taken with the sound of the album. But when I retreated in their catalogue I felt that those albums werw a bit more ballsy, none more so that the 300mPh-drive of Land Speed Record. 'Ultracore', that's what that was about. It wasn't directly my favourite, I played Flip Your Wig and Candy Apple Grey the most in those days, together with the Jesus And Mary Chain they were unstoppable in my stereo. But later on. Just like I love to replay Spacemen 3 and hear the rudimentary two-chord rock 'n roll and preferring it sometimes over the more stylish, luscious Spiritualized (which I adore), Land Speed Record in all its unrefinedness makes for more entertaining listening for me than Warehouse:Songs & Stories which sounded too clean for me and, as a double, didn't have the full strength in composition either. I played it instore a few weeks ago and I haven't really changed my mind.
I always blamed Mould from turning away from the punk-ethos and Workbook confirmed that.
I actually did like Workbook straight after it was released and it is still a good album. So when I heard he was going back to his roots with a new band called Sugar I pricked up my ears. Copper Blue was the first thing I really was anticipating post-Du and hoping it would capture some of the punky spirit of yore but it was such a polished turd of an album. I couldn't believe it. Tailormade songs for the new campus radio underground that was incessantly played on the alternative stations here and pushed as being 'great' by the media then too. I just didn't see it that way.
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Post by Galactus on Aug 30, 2005 22:00:23 GMT -5
I really just don't see how you could not like Copper Blue...Hoover Dam alone...pair it with JC Auto from the Beaster EP and IMO you've already bested 95% of Husker Du's output.
I do love HD's cover of Love Is All Around you though...
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Post by riley on Aug 31, 2005 6:22:54 GMT -5
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Post by lunatic96 on Sept 2, 2005 1:21:23 GMT -5
Has anybody else read the Husker Du chapter in "Our Band Could Be Your Life"? I found it to be pretty interesting, actually the reason I gave them another chance.
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Post by rockysigman on Sept 2, 2005 8:48:59 GMT -5
I've read that whole book. Great read.
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Post by Galactus on Sept 2, 2005 11:01:47 GMT -5
That is a great book...I especially enjoy the Dinosuar Jr. and Mats chapters.
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Post by Rit on Sept 22, 2005 19:39:38 GMT -5
that book is fantastic. And the chapter on Husker Du was great, yep.
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Post by maarts on Sept 26, 2005 10:06:45 GMT -5
I must chase up that book one day!
Patten- have you heard of a self titles M83-album that supposedly came out before Dead Cities?
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